THE TM MWS thread

[EvilMonkee]

Covered only a few pages back;

Genuine armourer wrench, not some cheesium one.

Spare nozzle

Spare nozzle return springs

TechT GunSav

Parker gun oil

Mini screwdriver and pick set

Long Allen keys upto 5mm

(non of that ball hex crap )

HSB spacer is good for buffer longevity, shot consistency, faster cycle, and a little fps boost.

Best place to get nozzle springs?

 

[GothicGhost]

My understanding is the PTS adapter would not work on the Handguard ARES Octarms 7 Inch Handguardas it only works for PTS own handguards?  https://www.fire-support.co.uk/product/pts-adapter-ring-for-marui-m4-mws-gbb

Not sure what adapter to buy? and I think I need some barrel spacers/shims as well for the 5KU barrel? Barrel

Thanks.

 

[Crazy_Crystal]

My understanding is the PTS adapter would not work on the Handguard ARES Octarms 7 Inch Handguardas it only works for PTS own handguards?  https://www.fire-support.co.uk/product/pts-adapter-ring-for-marui-m4-mws-gbb

Not sure what adapter to buy? and I think I need some barrel spacers/shims as well for the 5KU barrel? Barrel

Thanks.

So with the 5ku barrel you don't need an adapter. At least I don't with an angry gun rail, just needed a few shims under the barrel nut to tighten it up nicely. (Sometimes it does need some light sanding but not always.)

For the record a PTS adapter also works to fit most AEG type front rails onto the standard Marui barrel. Again the angry gun rail on the original standard mws outer barrel for me. I hope that that makes helps. Having said that I haven't had any direct experience with fitting an Area handguard. 

 

[AlphaBear]

For nozzle springs just get the ones Eagle6 make. Trying to get the Marui ones will not be easy. You just need to keep an eye out on the Japanese and HK airsoft sites as they tend to have the MWS parts in more frequently. Mind you nozzles and springs don’t hang around long so it’s the luck of the draw or a stock alert email. 
 

PTS adapter - I use one but still had to use shims to achieve a tight fit. I added a couple to get my MK18 rail to fit snug. 

 

[SSPKali]

And is the Dynamic Precision Reinforced Nozzle For TM M4A1 MWS better then the stock one?Dynamic Precision Reinforced Nozzle For TM M4A1 MWS

I have been using the TM nozzle and had a DP one as a spare. I tested it the other day and found a slight FPS increase (I think it seats deeper in the bucking)....and then the back ripped off it!

Mine was probably purchased 18mths ago and the spare from JKArmy (here in 5 days!) looks like a less shiny (less brittle?!) plastic. 

I need to give it a proper test but initial thoughts are the TM valve doesn't fit as it is a hair too large a diameter. The alloy DP one is fine.

My TM nozzle has been giving inconsistent FPS (265, 266, 264, 150, 265...wait what?) and I think that is to do with the wear around the part that seals on the bucking.

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[AlphaBear]

I have been using the TM nozzle and had a DP one as a spare. I tested it the other day and found a slight FPS increase (I think it seats deeper in the bucking)....and then the back ripped off it! Mine was probably purchased 18mths ago and the spare from JKArmy (here in 5 days!) looks like a less shiny (brittle?!) plastic. 

I need to give it a proper test but initial thoughts are the TM valve doesn't fit as it is a hair too large a diameter. The alloy DP one is fine. My TM nozzle has been giving inconsistent FPS (265, 266, 264, 150, 265...wait what?) and I think that is to do with the wear on it.

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Stand them up vertically and see if the new DP nozzle protrudes a tad more. To me it seems the head of the nozzle seems a tad longer than the Marui one. But it may well be the way the pic is taken. 

 

[GothicGhost]

So with the 5ku barrel you don't need an adapter. At least I don't with an angry gun rail, just needed a few shims under the barrel nut to tighten it up nicely. (Sometimes it does need some light sanding but not always.)

For the record a PTS adapter also works to fit most AEG type front rails onto the standard Marui barrel. Again the angry gun rail on the original standard mws outer barrel for me. I hope that that makes helps. Having said that I haven't had any direct experience with fitting an Area handguard. 

Thank you where can I get the correct shim from? fire support do them?

Thank you.

Also UPS came and thanks to this thread I am £600 down and still more stuff I need to order ??

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[SSPKali]

Stand them up vertically and see if the new DP nozzle protrudes a tad more. To me it seems the head of the nozzle seems a tad longer than the Marui one. But it may well be the way the pic is taken. 

I would but they are all assembled as I have been testing them! One day when I am bored I will

EDIT I have measured the very old and worn TM one and the "old" but less used DP one - the DP is 0.41mm longer over all. New pic is the TM (left) and Old DP (right) side by side.

It seems that the lightweight bolt has worse issues with low fps randomness. I think that certain combinations of bolt and nozzle mean the the BB can be seated too deep in the bucking meaning less fps and hop. New TM bucking with 4 clicks on the adjuster...may need one or two more but I only have a 10m range!

DP nozzle with DP valve and G&P stop (low) in a DP lightweight bolt is giving 260fps (0.30g, ASG gas, 14degC)

Same set up with G&P stop in the mid position = 315fps.

No weird drops in power, all nice and consistent

TM bolt with AG Mk2 complete nozzle is giving 270fps +/-5fps. Plenty of adjustment either way to compensate for the weather and ammo weight.

I have the TM and AG Mk1 nozzles as spare spares should I trash the other two!

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[Crazy_Crystal]

Thank you where can I get the correct shim from? fire support do them?

Thank you

Yep fire support do them... They work on AEGs too. You don't necessarily need to use them, just some rails need them.

Barrel Shims

 

[Hypokondrikern]

I bought the Prowin evo magazine V2 as a base for my custom 60 rnd DMAG. Here are some first impressions: 

Postive: 
# Most lightweight mag

# Solid construction

# Great finish

# Feeds well and consistent

Negative: 
# Can't load more than 46 bbs out of the box. I have left some in the magazine to see if I can weaken the spring and later cram in the last 6 - 9 promised bbs. 

# Bolt lock doesn't engage with alu bcg and HSB. It's to fast for the mag. 

I really hope I can fix the bolt lock problem as that was the reason I bought the mag...

On a side note. Lots of problems loading all mags with my TM speed loaders. I have lost the patience. Where can I source that plunger? ( it wasn't included with my second hand MWS )

 

[GothicGhost]

Does NUPROL BOCCA rails fit the MWS with 5KU outer barrel?

https://wolfarmouries.co.uk/nuprol-bocca-series-three-rail-7-brown.html

Thanks.

 

[AlphaBear]

Also UPS came and thanks to this thread I am £600 down and still more stuff I need to order ??

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Well serves you right for reading this thread lol

What are your plans for the CQBR?

I would but they are all assembled as I have been testing them! One day when I am bored I will

EDIT I have measured the very old and worn TM one and the "old" but less used DP one - the DP is 0.41mm longer over all. New pic is the TM (left) and Old DP (right) side by side.

It seems that the lightweight bolt has worse issues with low fps randomness. I think that certain combinations of bolt and nozzle mean the the BB can be seated too deep in the bucking meaning less fps and hop. New TM bucking with 4 clicks on the adjuster...may need one or two more but I only have a 10m range!

DP nozzle with DP valve and G&P stop (low) in a DP lightweight bolt is giving 260fps (0.30g, ASG gas, 14degC)

Same set up with G&P stop in the mid position = 315fps.

No weird drops in power, all nice and consistent

TM bolt with AG Mk2 complete nozzle is giving 270fps +/-5fps. Plenty of adjustment either way to compensate for the weather and ammo weight.

I have the TM and AG Mk1 nozzles as spare spares should I trash the other two!

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The strange results with the TM nozzle are more than likely down to the wear on the front end of the nozzle...  I would expect each shot to drop by an FPS or 2 simply due to the reduction in the volume of gas and hence less pressure in the mag. The erratic behaviour implies there is as compression issue that's for sure.... Also make sure the sealing buffer (the rubber washer) is properly lubed up each time you take the bolt apart...

 

[GothicGhost]

Well serves you right for reading this thread lol

What are your plans for the CQBR

I was looking at putting the nuprol bocca series 3 rail  on it with 5ku 7inch barrel but I don't if that would fit asI read on pages 3/4 I think some had trouble with nuprol rail.

The stock rail pretty nice to be fair as well

And then the normal upgrades like the brass nub and spare nozzle + springs mosly.

 

[quango2k]

She is complete.....for now.

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[GothicGhost]

That's really nice....I need more money for my dream build.

 

[EvilMonkee]

For nozzle springs just get the ones Eagle6 make. Trying to get the Marui ones will not be easy. You just need to keep an eye out on the Japanese and HK airsoft sites as they tend to have the MWS parts in more frequently. Mind you nozzles and springs don’t hang around long so it’s the luck of the draw or a stock alert email. 
 

PTS adapter - I use one but still had to use shims to achieve a tight fit. I added a couple to get my MK18 rail to fit snug. 

Which of the springs is it I need?

 

[gunbod007]

Think my Hop rubber is very slightly uneven since installing the SixG nub? Should I just reseat the bucking?

 

[AlphaBear]

Think my Hop rubber is very slightly uneven since installing the SixG nub? Should I just reseat the bucking?

You know you've just answered your own question right? ?

But yes, I'd do the same... just make sure when you reseat it the rubber is in the correct position.  Make sure when you slap both halves of the hop chamber together you don't bulge/buckle/sag/push or whatever the right word is to the rubber... but you know what I mean..

 

[GothicGhost]

I don't know if it's because I have brand new magazines but loading them with the m4 style speed loader feels impossible

The tube loader that comes with the gun is really good but I can't carry that around with me in field lol.

 

[quango2k]

I don't know if it's because I have brand new magazines but loading them with the m4 style speed loader feels impossible

The tube loader that comes with the gun is really good but I can't carry that around with me in field lol.

Are you using a genuine TM speed loader?

I have a nuprol one which is next to useless and my TM one works perfectly.