THE TM MWS thread

[ajumma]

Well my G&p buffer kit arrived today and it must be me but I've had a nightmare with it, I've two options: either no bolt lock as the buffer tube is wound nearly all the way in with two threads remaining or wound all the way out so it can move up and down and jam on the lower causing a gas out then giving me the final two finger salute by stopping me from lifting the upper from the lower by protruding too far forward and not catching on the spring buffer retaining (stop?) So I have to remove the buffer tube to get it out.

additionally the modify tan hop rubber with super G nub does not seem to be as good as the original tm one to me the best I can get is an 80 to 90 mm group at 20 m. I'm going back to the original hop rubber with super G nub.

Winner winner chicken dinner!

Suggestions, queries, comments? Or commiserations?

By buffer kit you mean it’s a recoil buffer in the buffer tube? It sounds like a pretty janky setup to me! Really sucks when stuff isn’t just drop in. Maybe it requires the g&p buffer tube to work properly? 

 

[AlphaBear]

Well my G&p buffer kit arrived today and it must be me but I've had a nightmare with it, I've two options: either no bolt lock as the buffer tube is wound nearly all the way in with two threads remaining or wound all the way out so it can move up and down and jam on the lower causing a gas out then giving me the final two finger salute by stopping me from lifting the upper from the lower by protruding too far forward and not catching on the spring buffer retaining (stop?) So I have to remove the buffer tube to get it out.

additionally the modify tan hop rubber with super G nub does not seem to be as good as the original tm one to me the best I can get is an 80 to 90 mm group at 20 m. I'm going back to the original hop rubber with super G nub.

Winner winner chicken dinner!

Suggestions, queries, comments? Or commiserations?

Do you mean this dildo shaped object is giving you a mare? I read somewhere to swap out the silicon knob end with a harder plastic end. I'm not if the Marui buffer end piece will fit into it though?

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[Wild Weasel]

Do you mean this dildo shaped object is giving you a mare? I read somewhere to swap out the silicon knob end with a harder plastic end. I'm not if the Marui buffer end piece will fit into it though?

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Yep, that's the one.

 

[Hypokondrikern]

Ace1Arms, but they still aren't as good as the stock magazines. Ironairsoft also do pmags but apparently they suck major ass. The Ace1Arms one are generally good, although one review I saw said they needed maintenance every 3-4 games? Which seems like a lot since I've used my gun for a few months and only cleaned + relubed the gun...

yes, they are not 100% tight out of the box. You’ll need to tighten and lube all screws + valves to get them working as intended. A bit of gas seal tape was needed on the screws on my mags that hold together the upper and lower body. I know all this sounds like hard work but the tolerances on the A1A mags are much more friendly for disassembly in comparison to the OGs. This makes the whole process a piece of cake.

 

[Guest]

Spent the day building another drum mag for an MTR ?

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[RMDavis]

Well my G&p buffer kit arrived today and it must be me but I've had a nightmare with it, I've two options: either no bolt lock as the buffer tube is wound nearly all the way in with two threads remaining or wound all the way out so it can move up and down and jam on the lower causing a gas out then giving me the final two finger salute by stopping me from lifting the upper from the lower by protruding too far forward and not catching on the spring buffer retaining (stop?) So I have to remove the buffer tube to get it out.

additionally the modify tan hop rubber with super G nub does not seem to be as good as the original tm one to me the best I can get is an 80 to 90 mm group at 20 m. I'm going back to the original hop rubber with super G nub.

Winner winner chicken dinner!

Suggestions, queries, comments? Or commiserations?

Mine was fit and forget! ? 

Sorry I can't add anything helpful...

Not sure if it makes any difference or whether yours was exactly the same, but my G&P buffer came with a fairly dense black rubber end cap rather than the yellow one shown in many of the photos. 

 

[Marroksteel]

Well my G&p buffer kit arrived today and it must be me but I've had a nightmare with it, I've two options: either no bolt lock as the buffer tube is wound nearly all the way in with two threads remaining or wound all the way out so it can move up and down and jam on the lower causing a gas out then giving me the final two finger salute by stopping me from lifting the upper from the lower by protruding too far forward and not catching on the spring buffer retaining (stop?) So I have to remove the buffer tube to get it out.

additionally the modify tan hop rubber with super G nub does not seem to be as good as the original tm one to me the best I can get is an 80 to 90 mm group at 20 m. I'm going back to the original hop rubber with super G nub.

Winner winner chicken dinner!

Suggestions, queries, comments? Or commiserations?

Well I have 4 different buffer tubes and all of the buffers I have fit G&P, RA-Tech, Prowin, Angry Gun the tube brands are Geissele, G&P, Hao, and stock so ether your doing to wrong or I'm just lucky.

Do you mean this dildo shaped object is giving you a mare? I read somewhere to swap out the silicon knob end with a harder plastic end. I'm not if the Marui buffer end piece will fit into it though?

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[Wild Weasel]

Well I have 4 different buffer tubes and all of the buffers I have fit G&P, RA-Tech, Prowin, Angry Gun the tube brands are Geissele, G&P, Hao, and stock so ether your doing to wrong or I'm just lucky.

Yep, I'm doing something wrong. Like I say I can get it to run ok with the g&p buffer but without bolt lock back.

 

[Davegolf]

Is your buffer tube screwed in too far?

 

[Kerberos]

Hi, I finally took the dive and upgraded myself from a WE M4 gbbr to the TM Mk18 Mod 1. I was trying to access the hop up, but I can't get the outer barrel or rails off. Is there a specific tool I need for this or are there any guides for the mk18 yet?

 

[Wild Weasel]

Is your buffer tube screwed in too far?

I've just been on to William Hicks who got me started on this GnP buffer thing -

https://www.instagram.com/p/B-YS5wfnIkX/?igshid=xsep5da90p6o

the problem in short was bolt lock could not be achieved because one, I'm a twatt and two, I had the buffer tube wound out far too far as I could not get bolt lock and ended up winding out to far  causing the GnP buffer to get stuck - I'm now wound all the way in and it has solved my problem.

He recommends a rubber washer at the bottom of the TM original buffer tube to prevent the rubber on the buffer being chewed up too.

Another point he made to me was check the BCG screws are tight or you can end up like his mate here...

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[jsmithski]

I've just been on to William Hicks who got me started on this GnP buffer thing -

https://www.instagram.com/p/B-YS5wfnIkX/?igshid=xsep5da90p6o

the problem in short was bolt lock could not be achieved because one, I'm a twatt and two, I had the buffer tube wound out far too far as I could not get bolt lock and ended up winding out to far  causing the GnP buffer to get stuck - I'm now wound all the way in and it has solved my problem.

He recommends a rubber washer at the bottom of the TM original buffer tube to prevent the rubber on the buffer being chewed up too.

Another point he made to me was check the BCG screws are tight or you can end up like his mate here...

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This can happen when you screw in the buffer tube to much or you use green gas and the bolt travels with a higher speed and force. For the top screw there’s not much you can do (I’ve compressed the buffer tube spring to make it stiffer), for the two side dents you need to either screw out the buffer tube or cut off few threads like I did so it does not protrude that much making contact with the bolt.

 

[Wild Weasel]

This can happen when you screw in the buffer tube to much or you use green gas and the bolt travels with a higher speed and force. For the top screw there’s not much you can do (I’ve compressed the buffer tube spring to make it stiffer), for the two side dents you need to either screw out the buffer tube or cut off few threads like I did so it does not protrude that much making contact with the bolt.

Now that I have a reliable bolt lock I'm going to pack out the bottom of the buffer tube with washers to compress the spring a bit more a' la' hsb buffer style.

 

[Reap]

Hi, I finally took the dive and upgraded myself from a WE M4 gbbr to the TM Mk18 Mod 1. I was trying to access the hop up, but I can't get the outer barrel or rails off. Is there a specific tool I need for this or are there any guides for the mk18 yet?

I’m fairly new to this stuff, but I think if you lock the bolt back you can access the hop-up via the mag well

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[jsmithski]

Now that I have a reliable bolt lock I'm going to pack out the bottom of the buffer tube with washers to compress the spring a bit more a' la' hsb buffer style.

Yeah, just make sure there is enough space inside the washer for the buffer.

 

[ajumma]

I’m fairly new to this stuff, but I think if you lock the bolt back you can access the hop-up via the mag well

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I assume he means to change the bucking or nub? I haven't got any experience with the mk18 but I assume there are a few screw securing the handguard to the barrel nut which need to be removed to slide the handguard off. Then the barrel nut can be torqued off using the appropriate wrench.

Having to take my glove off and awkwardly finger my magwell to adjust the hop sucks though. Sure once you've done it a few times it be comes quite easy, but if you're someone with thicker hands or short fingers, it would REALLY suck. 

edit: so apparently the mk18 rail is two parts? You have to take the lower part off, and then the upper part via screws at the rear of the handguard or something

 

[Davegolf]

He recommends a rubber washer at the bottom of the TM original buffer tube to prevent the rubber on the buffer being chewed up too.

This can happen when you screw in the buffer tube to much or you use green gas and the bolt travels with a higher speed and force. For the top screw there’s not much you can do (I’ve compressed the buffer tube spring to make it stiffer), for the two side dents you need to either screw out the buffer tube or cut off few threads like I did so it does not protrude that much making contact with the bolt.

https://sixgunsmithing.com/2019/07/07/sixg-hsb-high-speed-buffer/

 

[Hypokondrikern]

Any reviews / thoughts on the prowin ar9 kit?

 

[Wild Weasel]

https://sixgunsmithing.com/2019/07/07/sixg-hsb-high-speed-buffer/

Definitely on my want list but I've spent way, way to much recently so I'm going to hold off with this for a bit.  incidentally is this likely to affect bolt lock because it will have the same effect as winding the buffer tube even further in would it not?

 

[Davegolf]

Depends on what other mods you are running.

What gas are you on?

What buffer spring are you running?

What weight bolt are you using?