TWI Molot Mags. Help needed.

[TheInternetBroughtMeHere]

Does anyone here have any experience with the TWI Molot mags? I've have no end of headaches getting the things to feed with my LCT RPK-74.

From my own observations, it seems like the BB catch on the mag has too shallow of a ramp that contacts with the hop-unit, meaning when the mag is seated in the magwell the hop-unit isn't able to push the catch out of the way to allow BBs to feed into the unit. I've made some attempt to add more of a ramp to the catch, but the hop-unit still struggles to keep the catch back. Which makes it seem like the hop-unit is too short for the hole in the mag.

Just wondering if anyone else has experience something similar, if they have found a way to over come this sort of issue.

[Austeyr]

I’ve had the complete opposite, the few molot mags I had all worked in my RPK74, and my LCT AK-105 too

 

Edit: are you using gen 1 or gen 2 mags?

Edited 15 hours ago by Austeyr

[TheInternetBroughtMeHere]

11 hours ago, Austeyr said:

I’ve had the complete opposite, the few molot mags I had all worked in my RPK74, and my LCT AK-105 too

 

Edit: are you using gen 1 or gen 2 mags?

I'm under the impression I am using the gen2 mags? These being the ones with a shine finish and completely captive. From old review videos of the mags they appear to be a matt finish and able to be dissasembled. When I bought from them from Airsoft World, they were advertised as the *new* type which came after lockdown.

I had bought 10 of these, but they all have the same issue for me, so it's not just the one mag being a lemon. They were also bought a while ago so I'm committed to owning them haha. I presume you had stock LCT hop-units in both your RPK and 105 when you used them?
 

[Austeyr]

46 minutes ago, TheInternetBroughtMeHere said:

I'm under the impression I am using the gen2 mags

Are they 150 or 180 rounds? 
 

Yeah, stock hop unit in both replicas. However the mags I had where the gen 1’s, so perhaps something has changed?

[TheInternetBroughtMeHere]

52 minutes ago, Austeyr said:

Are they 150 or 180 rounds? 

Interesting now that you ask.

I bought them advertised as 180rnds, but never really counted untill now. I only get 130 rnds into the mag

[Austeyr]

10 minutes ago, TheInternetBroughtMeHere said:

Interesting now that you ask.

I bought them advertised as 180rnds, but never really counted untill now. I only get 130 rnds into the mag

 

So you do indeed have the gen 2 mags. I can only assume TWI has done something different to the position of the catch or something silly as the gen 1's worked beautifully. It might be worth asking in the RUSFOR facebook groups, perhaps someone with gen 2 mags could help further

[TheInternetBroughtMeHere]

56 minutes ago, Austeyr said:

asking in the RUSFOR facebook groups

I have managed to manufacture a solution to my issue by shimming the mag catch on the magazine with 1mm of extra material, and sloped the BB catch in the mag just slightly to reduce the resistance when it's being pushed by the hop-unit. The shimming allows it to sit just slightly taller into the hop-unit which neutralises the feeding issue.

It could perhaps mean that my RPK-74M is a bit of a lemon and that mag catch is cut just slightly too short despite it having no issues feeding from LCT own mags or CYMA mags. It's a tedious fix to have to modify 10 mags, but a fix nontheless. No such thing as milspec when it comes to AKs I suppose aha.

Edited 59 minutes ago by TheInternetBroughtMeHere