VMP2 MD or D

[dle]

Hey I’m looking at getting the vmp2 but unsure if to get the md or the d just wondering if anyone has any experience with these and advice on which one to get. Cheers 

[Paletraveller274]

Own the D as well as M externals. The stock on the D is non-adjustable and may be too short; while the MD is just an enlarged version of the M with a different nozzle/stock. Choose the D if you plan to mount a full size marksman scope - the MD for a magnifier or LPVO. Of course, you may choose to replace the plastic externals anyway. Just be aware both are heavier than they appear.

 

My advice would be to buy the M variant and use the money saved to purchase the Semi lower, that way it can switch between normal and DMR usage with a nozzle switch or Sabre NPAS. You can always install an extended inner barrel under a mock suppressor. Good luck.

Edited Thursday at 19:34 by Paletraveller274

[Darthwhite8]

I have the 2M, if you want me 2p on it...

 

Budget for an upgraded barrel at time of purchase as the stock is a strange 2 piece affair that's horribly inaccurate

 

Because there isn't a sensibly priced aftermarket barrel the correct length, the most cost effective way is to get a more common "long pistol" barrel, which is about 145mm long  

 

As this is shorter than the stock barrel the power will drop, so you need to buy the excellent Sabre airsoft npas kit or to widen the brass part of the stock nozzle to bring the power back up 

 

Stock hop bucking isn't great, best to swap it while doing the barrel. Also while ordering the NPAS from Sabre order their flat hop adaptor thing 

 

The hop unit & barrel aren't necessarily aligned too the nozzle from the factory, and the inner barrel may be a little loose in the outer barrel, so some electrical tape shimming & some time tuning may be needed 

 

Mags (I have five) have all been great thus far 

 

As a £250 gun - with £50 of upgrades - and some time tuning in the garage it's a cracking bit of kit! 

[dle]

4 hours ago, Paletraveller274 said:

Own the D as well as M externals. The stock on the D is non-adjustable and may be too short; while the MD is just an enlarged version of the M with a different nozzle/stock. Choose the D if you plan to mount a full size marksman scope - the MD for a magnifier or LPVO. Of course, you may choose to replace the plastic externals anyway. Just be aware both are heavier than they appear.

 

My advice would be to buy the M variant and use the money saved to purchase the Semi lower, that way it can switch between normal and DMR usage with a nozzle switch or Sabre NPAS. You can always install an extended inner barrel under a mock suppressor. Good luck.

Thanks for the reply. I’m going to be wanting it as a dmr set up, would you still recommend the M and then buying the semi lower?

4 hours ago, Darthwhite8 said:

I have the 2M, if you want me 2p on it...

 

Budget for an upgraded barrel at time of purchase as the stock is a strange 2 piece affair that's horribly inaccurate

 

Because there isn't a sensibly priced aftermarket barrel the correct length, the most cost effective way is to get a more common "long pistol" barrel, which is about 145mm long  

 

As this is shorter than the stock barrel the power will drop, so you need to buy the excellent Sabre airsoft npas kit or to widen the brass part of the stock nozzle to bring the power back up 

 

Stock hop bucking isn't great, best to swap it while doing the barrel. Also while ordering the NPAS from Sabre order their flat hop adaptor thing 

 

The hop unit & barrel aren't necessarily aligned too the nozzle from the factory, and the inner barrel may be a little loose in the outer barrel, so some electrical tape shimming & some time tuning may be needed 

 

Mags (I have five) have all been great thus far 

 

As a £250 gun - with £50 of upgrades - and some time tuning in the garage it's a cracking bit of kit! 

Thanks, do you know if the barrel issue is the same across all the models? I’m wanting it set up as a dmr so I’ll definitely need a long barrel 

[Paletraveller274]

On 11/09/2025 at 23:22, dle said:

Thanks for the reply. I’m going to be wanting it as a dmr set up, would you still recommend the M and then buying the semi lower?

If you are only going to use it as a DMR then decide based on looks, as mentioned just be aware of the non-adjustable D stock and overall weight. P.S. see Sabre Airsoft on Youtube for his guide regarding inner barrels.

Edited Friday at 23:36 by Paletraveller274

[Darthwhite8]

Perhaps controversial, but I don't think these are the best choice for a DMR 

 

Fundamentally the further and more accurately you want to shoot the less variation you want in power levels, both shot for shot and week to week. Spring (sniper) and HPA / AEG (DMR) lend themselves too this but gas does not.

 

With gas every time you pull the trigger the gas as expands from the mag and down the barrel / into the blowback unit, that expansion has the effect of cooling the mag, which reduces the pressure available for the next shot a little bit until the mag heats back up again, and the expansion / cooling effect is cumulative. The more you shoot the colder the mag gets, and the longer it takes to get back to the starting pressure. It's well known physics 

 

The bigger the mag the more mass there is to hold onto the heat, so the slower the effect comes on (but the longer it takes to warm back up after shooting) I have the long mags for mine and see a 10-20fps variation in rapid semi auto from the first shot to the last over 10-15 rounds at about 2 rounds a second. Extrapolating that too a DMR that's shooting half as quickly and you're still seeing a larger variation than any AEG, let alone a well tuned one like a DMR

 

Gas guns also behave differently throughout the year, needing different mixtures of gases in summer vs winter to even work, and will perform differently from morning to afternoon on a gameday as the ambient temperature changes. Today started around 8' and ended around 18', in the morning my GBBR was a bit anemic (290-300fps at the morning chrono) by the afternoon on the same gas it was a nail driver. 

 

Gases aside the hop unit on these also has a bit of slop in it as it's a fairly cheap component so isn't as consistent as it could be. 

 

None of this is as dramatic as I've probably made it sound, but a good DMR all about consistency & I'm trying to explain that this doesn't have it to the same level as a HPA / AEG based DMR. Fixable perhaps, especially if you go HPA instead of gas, but this adds significantly too the overall platform cost (easily x2 overall if you don't have any HPA stuff, or + £100ish if you already have the tank, reg and hose), and I suspect a lot more trial and error & tuning than an AEG based DMR would need to achieve the same performance 

 

As an indoor CQB gun VMP2's and gas guns in general are great (it's what I have mine for) as a mid field rifle outside they can hold their own in the right hands (obvs AEG's and HPA rifles have a lot more ammo on tap! - I was using mine for this today)... but as a DMR... you'll spending the same or more £££ and time to get something that just doesn't perform as well as an AEG based DMR. 

 

Again, my 2p and my experience of owning both;

 

My DMR's AEG based & fag packet maths cost me about £500ish to build with a couple of mags. Achieves 440fps +/- 3fps and will consistently hit a man size target at about 65m, probably further. It has a precocking gearbox (perun mosfet) and a highspeed brushless motor so has the same trigger response and followup shot speed as my VMP2. Lighter too... 

 

My CQB VMP2 + 5 Mags & all the mods cost about the same but has at best 2/3rds the predictable effective range when tuned too the same power level. I largely put this down to the power being less consistent and the hop being a bit sloppy. With a longer barrel it might be a bit more accurate a bit further out, but it's never going to be able to match the AEG.