Why yes the Police can be a bit clueless at times .

[tinkle60]

Well that’s scary as hell , just reinforces my conclusion that most police officers responsible for policing the section of the law responsible for control of ‘dangerous items’(wether firearms/knives/etc)  any workable knowledge about the subjects there supposed to be the ‘experts’ on ! 
PS @Lozart , I blame Mussolini he started it all ! ?

Under resourced and in some cases incompetent. I work next door to an RFD and he was recently asked to provide 2 years worth of firearms transfers despite sending each one in on time. Seems law abiding citizens and businesses do all they can to stay on the right side of the law, but the authorities can't or won't do their part.

 

[Rogerborg]

he was recently asked to provide 2 years worth of firearms transfers despite sending each one in on time

I suspect that was a knee-jerk reaction to that incel sperg[*] who went postal in Plymouth last year after having his shotgun certificate (and shotgun) removed, and then reinstated.

As always, the majority get punished when the only two people responsible were the loony, and the loony-hugger who gave them back their gun.

[*]Literally, not figuratively.

 

[Druid799]

I suspect that was a knee-jerk reaction to that incel sperg[*] who went postal in Plymouth last year after having his shotgun certificate (and shotgun) removed, and then reinstated.

As always, the majority get punished when the only two people responsible were the loony, and the loony-hugger who gave them back their gun.

[*]Literally, not figuratively.

Unfortunately I do believe your not wrong with this as we now live in a society where individual blame isn’t allowed to be given anymore , the culture now is ‘shared guilt’ so no one can feel able to make an accusation of bullying or being picked on .
In the ‘old days’ it was a case off “you fucked up don’t do it again , lesson learnt move on” but now that isn’t allowed so when an individual does screw up the two options are either collective guilt or diving in to the nightmare that is HR , paperwork/meetings/investigations/public relations and possible litigation all for something that could have been sorted with a simple Bollocking and this now runs through all levels of society no matter what the severity(or lack of) the incident may have .

 

[Oneshotscott]

Don't ridicule them for doing their job when you made the mistake /error yourself.

Keeping knives out of the hands of wierd people with intentions to do harm should be welcomed. 

Stop moaning. 

 

[Tackle]

Don't ridicule them for doing their job when you made the mistake /error yourself.

Keeping knives out of the hands of wierd people with intentions to do harm should be welcomed. 

Stop moaning. 

To quote an old adage, "knives don't kill people, people kill people", you think taking all the "zombie knives" & other associated crap off the shelves is gonna stop people being stabbed ?, is it fuck, the whole thing was just yet another government knee jerk reaction, probably to cover up a completely different non related matter that it didn't want talked about. 

In the same vein, no pun intended, bout 15 years ago, following another surge in "stabbiness", a group of A&E doctors tried to raise a petition to the government of the time to ban the import & sale of all pointed knives, but as was quickly pointed out, all the scrotes etc would do is raid their mums kitchen drawers, or start making shivs from literally everything available. 

No, if the police are gonna try to enforce the law, ANY LAW, best they know what they're talking about first, & if the intention is to prevent harm being done, maybe properly lock up the habitual criminals, the repeat offenders who it seems know how to work the crap system to their advantage. 

Like the fact that if your subject to a stop & search, found to be in possession of a bladed article but not in the process of committing a crime with it, not only are you likely to escape prosecution, you will probably get the knife back, if you ask nicely lol.

Like the lad in London, a known gang member caught with 15 knives (I think ?), slap on the wrist & his brief asked for the knives to be returned?

 

[Oneshotscott]

Thanks for the stories and information. It was a great read. 

 

[Tackle]

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[Rogerborg]

Don't ridicule them for doing their job when you made the mistake /error yourself.

That take is edgier than the spud peeler that Druid had the temerity to import.

 

[Druid799]

Don't ridicule them for doing their job when you made the mistake /error yourself.

Keeping knives out of the hands of wierd people with intentions to do harm should be welcomed. 

Stop moaning. 

Well mr Smuggy Mcfucknuts IF you’d actually read my post properly you’d have seen I said the very same knife was for sale in the UK already only reason I was buying it from over seas was it was out of stock at the moment . I do realise it’s probably an awfully hard task for you but do try and get your facts right before trying(and failing) to troll someone ? There’s a good little spunktrumpet .

Savvy ?

 

[Shamal]

Haha he has it in duplicate now so no mistake. ?

 

[Dogsbody100]

Well mr Smuggy Mcfucknuts IF you’d actually read my post properly you’d have seen I said the very same knife was for sale in the UK already only reason I was buying it from over seas was it was out of stock at the moment . I do realise it’s probably an awfully hard task for you but do try and get your facts right before trying(and failing) to troll someone ? There’s a good little spunktrumpet .

Savvy ?

“Mr Smuggy MckFucknuts” ?????????????

 

[SleekDogs]

I wouldn't have even let him in the front door without some form of warrant.  They have zero right to come into your home.  And I am a copper (Civvie/Military) of 20 odd years...

Whilst I agree that OP could have demanded a warrant in these specific circumstances, folks reading this should be aware that this isn't applicable to all situations and shouldn't be relied upon.

For those reading; there are a number of powers in certain circumstances that allow a Police Constable to enter without a warrant. When those circumstances are met then refusing access and demanding a warrant will probably just result in you left with a big old hole in your front door!

As it stands it sounds like there was polite conversation between OP and the officer who was then satisfied that no law had been broken and no further action was then taken. I'd suggest putting in a refund claim against Border Force for the destroyed item if you are confident no law was broken. 

 

[Rogerborg]

For those reading; there are a number of powers in certain circumstances that allow a Police Constable to enter without a warrant.

I can't see how this was one of them though.  Of course there's always the argument that when permission is refused, it triggers the condition that the evidence is likely to be destroyed or removed before a warrant can be obtained.  Rather circular though.

When those circumstances are met then refusing access and demanding a warrant will probably just result in you left with a big old hole in your front door!

It certainly can, but how often does it happen?  Can you provide some examples of where UK police have performed unannounced forced entry, without waiting to see if anyone opens the door, even with a warrant?

I'm not actually advocating the "come back when you have a warrant" strategy, if you're convinced that no evidence of any criminality will be apparent once you invite the vampire copper in.

However, how confident are you that you know every possible offence that you might be committing?

Just for example, if you have a knife or sword with a curved blade over 50cm, that's now an offence to even possess in private.