Which one should I buy - You Decide!

[RostokMcSpoons]

You pull the trigger and your pistol shits the bed

You pull the trigger and....

...You've got the safety on, and you swear so loudly thinking it's broken that your enemy hears you, turns around and shoots you

...You've forgotten to cock it (more swearing, same result.  Should buy a double action pistol next time)

...You've forgotten to put a magazine in it, they're all still nicely ensconced in their pouches

...You've forgotten to put BBs in the magazine

...You've run out of gas already cos you spent too much time showing off how well it shoots in the cold

Or...

... You draw the pistol from the holster and manage to very smoothly eject the magazine in the same movement 

None of these things have ever happened to me, honest!

 

[The DrabOlive]

It’s a hobby to most of us dude

But nothing more disappointing than getting the sneak up on somebody and deciding to full on bad ass and getting the pistol out for the first time you have ever truly needed it!!

You’ve got the advantage …

Your victim doesn’t know you are there….

You very stealthily, withdraw your pistol from your holster……

Steady your nerves, line up the shot (who knows - the site photographer could be ready for you)

You pull the trigger and your pistol shits the bed and vents the guts out of the magazine!!

I’ve witnessed this more than a dozen times ?

I keep seeing Doom-posting like this hence why I can't make up my mind. Alot of ppl talk have said bad things about WE and AA but now they are recommending these brands. Everyone seems to presume anything except a TM will explode after a week. Surely for the prices and brands I'm looking at, I'm avoiding a bed-shitting scenario? After this price point it's Novrisch and the the Agent 2 which I am waaaay too poor to even think about! 

Not sure I'd be using that analogy considering their ages in the original text?

What are you wanting from the pistol? If it's going to be a holster queen then get which ever one you like the look of. If you're planning on using it quite often then I'd go with the TM. Yes it's more expensive but it will perform better and last longer

Holster Queen, haha! Yeah I'm not thinking of running a pistol primary - just something for CQB/indoors when my M4A1 is a bit too big for the job. I guess my problem is I'm looking for guarantees in a hobby where stuff can just blow up, hence why I'm reluctant to stand behind either one. 

 

[Rogerborg]

Alot of ppl talk have said bad things about WE and AA but now they are recommending these brands.

From experience, the AA R17 mock-Glock is decent for the (very low) money. From observations, the R608 has (or had) one fragile part that doesn't stop it working.  There's no airsoft brand that I've used that I would give an unqualified recommendation for, as...

I guess my problem is I'm looking for guarantees in a hobby where stuff can just blow up, hence why I'm reluctant to stand behind either one. 

That's a realistic view. If I wanted to minimise surprises, I'd spring the little extra for a TM pistol, simple as.  I've tried a TM G17 and the trigger is much crisper than my AA. But... they both sling BBs downrange.

It's airsoft, everything is a daft waste of money.

 

[Tackle]

@The DrabOlive I've had a load of pistols, still do, but first couple of years of playing prob had 6 I think, 3 different brands, ksc, kjw, we, best of them was my ksc G19, & then one day a regular at the chain of sites I used offered me a tm hi-capa 4.3 with 3 mags for £70, had a try on the edge of the safezone, it was actually acrisse, a military training area near Folkestone, middle of winter & absolutely freezing.

First few shots I'm like "wow, that's got some snappy kick", & hitting small targets at 30m+.

Emptied all 3 mags, 24 bb's in each, without missing a beat I FREEZING TEMPERATURES!!!! ?. 

Bought it there & then, still using it probably 20 years later. 

Buy whatever you like the look of, 

BUT

First buy a tm hi-capa, that way you've always got a perfect secondary to go back to when the others let you down. 

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[Krisz]

I certainly wouldn't have a full metal green gas 1911 as my only pistol. Honestly, in terms of size, weight, performance etc, I think the TM G19 is one of the best sidearms around...but you should buy something you like the look and feel of. Just know that you're choosing the latter over reliability.

Marui G19's are known about low FPS though (that's why I never built one).

That’s the winner there if you want a hi cappa style pistol

I never get the incessant fascination for having a metal slide over usability , I mean if your just gonna sit in the house and touch n caress it when watching a gnu pron film (like I do) 

Fair enough

But I know, when it comes down to it, my plastic slide TM will work every time I pull it out in the few and far between times I have needed to 

If you want to run it on HPA around green gas pressures metal slide is gonna be needed sooner or later. No one knows when a plastic slide cracks I know.

Also metal can be alu it doesn't have to be cnc'd steel. Personally I wouldn't put a steel slide on any of my pistols but it's about personal preferences like everything in this hobby.

 

[RostokMcSpoons]

If you want all metal, here's a cheap alternative hi capa that I've not heard anything about ... 

https://www.actionhobbies.co.uk/products/ec-5-1-hi-capa-gas-blowback-airsoft-pistol-black/

Absolutely no idea if they're any good, we need someone to be a guinea pig ?

 

[Tackle]

If you want all metal, here's a cheap alternative hi capa that I've not heard anything about ... 

https://www.actionhobbies.co.uk/products/ec-5-1-hi-capa-gas-blowback-airsoft-pistol-black/

Absolutely no idea if they're any good, we need someone to be a guinea pig ?

Alternatively, KJW do a couple of hi-capa variants, they're "all metal", & while I had no issues with mine, I never used it in the colder seasons & even in hot weather it was never quite as good as either of my TM's. 

Had an all metal WE hi-capa too, but that was a poorly made bag-o-shite, irrespective of the seasons lol.