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What's the next step to upgrading my currently stock AEG?

to echo above the first thing you're gonna want is a chrono if you're going to be messing around with springs etc.

not only can it check the power is correct, but it's a good measurement for consistency and wether or not any remedial work done to the air seal has actually helped.

on the subject of which for range/accuracy you're gonna want to look at the following (in order of difficulty-performance ratio):

1. clean the barrel, and get into the habit of cleaning it regularly. a good rule of thumb is before every game day although sometimes even during a game day might be necessary (especially with a tighter bore)

2. feed it good quality heavier ammo, even the best gun in the world will shoot like shit if you stuff some bulldog 0.12's in it. how heavy is a toss up between your usual round count and your bank balance but generally the 0.28-0.32g range tends to be a good compromise for assault style play.

3. tying into 2 is to look at the hop, doesn't need to be difficult just a drop-in setup like the maple leaf macaron+omega nub combo when installed properly will help spin up the heavies. the longer feedlips can occasionally cause feeding issues in some guns and for those i'm a fan of the pdi w-hop with standard nub (although that'll struggle with really heavy ammo).

4. consistency- you'll need a chrono for this. you want to be addressing any potential leak so that every last molecule in the cylinder is going nowhere but down the barrel propelling the bb. the way to check this is to chrono a few shots and semi and see what sort of range of values you get, the smaller this range the better. this involves cracking open the gearbox too so a big step up in the difficulty.

5. energy- this is where you've jumped ahead to already, but the reason to wait until you're sure the air seal is good is you want to be sure the spring your using is only as strong as it needs to be to get the energy you need. if you have a bad leak and compensate with an overpowered spring you're just loading the box unnecessarily and with less resistance the piston slapping home isn't going to be happy. you don't need to be too exact, being a few fps under the limit won't be a massive loss in range but it might make the difference if the battered to crap filled with shattered nuprol bb's and soaked in mildew from sitting in a shed site chrono doesn't read so precise any more.

6. barrel- at this point the rest of the system should be getting good enough to justify a better barrel, gains aren't likely to be massive here (we're getting to the steep bit of the diminishing returns curve) but something like the ZCI 6.02 stainless barrels are cracking value for money. length wise just stick with the same length as stock, extending the barrel length won't help performance and indeed can actually make things worse if it starts under-voluming the system.

worth noting whilst i'm using the conventional "fps" terminology, that's actually "fps equivalent for a 0.2g bb", when using heavier ammo the raw fps number the chrono spits out will be lower, but don't be fooled into thinking that means less range, the energy (aka joules) is what matters (for site compliance) and even if it's travelling slower heavier ammo at the same energy does travel further (among other advantages).

as for semi-auto response, these days that's easier than ever thanks to the abundance of mosfets with precocking. that'll take a lot of the perceived delay out of the equation without messing with rate of fire in auto (and the potential problems driving a gearbox too fast can have). pair that with a decent motor (warhead brushless being the current kings for pickup speed, although they're not exactly cheap) and you're pretty much there already.


Thanks for the advice. I'll definitely be getting a chrono before I change anything then.

0.28 - 0.33 BBs? I always figured 0.25s were the hottest single in the area. A good mixture of range and speed but I'll have a look more into that.

Thanks for clarifying in regards to the barrel length. That was something I was premptively going to upgrade thinking extending it would increase my range.

So to sum up your advice.

Clean your barrel.

Buy a chrono.

Don't upgrade the barrel is necessarily but you can replace it.

Use good heavier BBs.

Maybe upgrade your hopper.

Is there a step by step way you think I should go about upgrading then? I appreciate you going into detail but this is a lot for some who knows basically nothing about this stuff.

Why on earth you'd put an M115 in it without a chrono boggles the mind


Spoke to a few sellers in Airsoft shops and people from different sources who all were telling me that getting an M115 would be fine. They said not to get M120 though.

I also went to a site after this upgrade and the gun fell within restrictions.

Big Dragon M140 motors (or "mortors") from AliExpress can come in a bit cheaper and are pretty meaty.


I was told some things are dependent on others so for example if I were to use a M140 spring on a stock motor it would lower its life due to the much increased resistance right? So if I replace the motor would I need to replace anything else? Also what would upgrading the motor do exactly? More power or would it just shoot faster?

Also I'll have a look into all the stuff you mentioned. Thanks for the advice. ?

 
Spoke to a few sellers in Airsoft shops and people from different sources who all were telling me that getting an M115 would be fine. They said not to get M120 though.

I also went to a site after this upgrade and the gun fell within restrictions.


If you went to the store and they advised you a M115 would be fine then they should have also mentioned that you have a compression issue somewhere in the gearbox or hop chamber and that needs to be fixed first.  Unfortunately you'll need to open the gearbox to troubleshoot.  You can do it yourself of course or try to find a decent tech.

My advice, forget about turning it into a DMR for now till you have more experience, unless you want to pay for someone else to do the work.

 
If you went to the store and they advised you a M115 would be fine then they should have also mentioned that you have a compression issue somewhere in the gearbox or hop chamber and that needs to be fixed first. 
Unless the OP isn't in the UK but playing somewhere with higher power limits

 
0.28 - 0.33 BBs? I always figured 0.25s were the hottest single in the area. A good mixture of range and speed but I'll have a look more into that.


for a given energy, and assuming the gun can lift them, heavier ammo will always go further.

however if the gun struggles to lift a heavier bb, it can be a case that a lighter bb requiring less hop will be more effective, especially seeing as turning the hop up tends to result in increased resistance (and hence lower energy).

changing the hop to something like the maple leaf setup will make it easier to lift the heavies.

Is there a step by step way you think I should go about upgrading then? I appreciate you going into detail but this is a lot for some who knows basically nothing about this stuff.


the list i gave is in roughly the order of improvement-difficulty ratio, so the further down the list the more difficult the step is relative to the improvement you can get.

1, 2 and 3 generally aren't that tricky to do for AR pattern guns as pulling the hop is a relatively easy process.

step 4 is where you might want to hesitate, at least until you've expanded your collection a tad and have a reliable backup gun, rather than risk breaking something as a first-time teching experience.

 
Echo most of the advice in here. 

On all of my guns, bar my sniper rifle, all I have done is changed barrel to a ZCI, and fitted a decent hop rubber (prommy purple, G&G green, or the light blue G&G in the rotary hops) and used some heavier bbs. Rarely out ranged at my local site, and requires very little time/difficulty to do

 
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