What's the Most Efficient Stock GBB Pistol You've Used!

[Davegolf]

Co2 Shadow, 75 whole hearted shots - in the middle of winter ?

 

[gunbod007]

TM and leave the slide plastic, helps with the cold weather performance and higher RoF

 

[emilianoksa]

Well somebody had to say it so I suppose it falls to me:

TM hi capa.

Simple single action mechanism means there isn't much to go wrong.

And it is easy to fix if it does.

 

[Lex Dangler]

The only other GBBs with similar efficiency are my two AAP-01s

How do they compare otherwise? 

Well somebody had to say it so I suppose it falls to me:

TM hi capa.

Simple single action mechanism means there isn't much to go wrong.

And it is easy to fix if it does.

Ha, I'm surprised no one mentioned sooner! 

TM  MK23. As its non Blow back  doesn't even waste gas pushing the slide back

That trigger pull though!

 

[Lex Dangler]

For me it was a toss up between a TM FNX45 and the TM HK45. Then @Lex Danglercame along dangling he's HK45 at me which frankly was a great deal (thank you sir) and I couldn't resist. I blame @herosharkfor swaying me towards HK porn

If I could grab a FNX45 in black (with a suppressor I'd have pondered that as I've just heard such good things about them ....@Lex Danglergrab one dude and then when you get bored of it, I'll have it off you.... but in black not that Hasbro tan colour <insert throwing up emoji> 

((As they say in Star Wars..... That's no moon its a TM .... Move along nothing to see its a TM, look sir it's a TM (not a droid... ))

I'm on it dude! I think my decision has been made, just got to sell a few bits and bobs and I'll be getting one, in black of course, that's a no brainer ?‍ I'm with you on that awful tan colour! I will report back with my thoughts on it and I'll let you know IF I get bored of it ? 

 

[Hami]

Cool tactical tan color 

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[Lex Dangler]

Cool tactical tan color 

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No way! That's the colour you get when you mix all your play doh together. It's gotta be black!

 

[Skara]

How do they compare otherwise? 

The AAPs against the TM G17?

Roughly the same performance, 55/60 metres on 0.3s with a good degree of consistency.

Mind you, I have replaced the hop rubbers on all 3 guns (running 50/60° ML decepticons). Stock none could reliably lift 0.3s (you'd get 1 in 5/6 shots properly hopped and the rest was diving down at about 20/25 metres).

Efficiency wise, they're similar, they go through the full magazine with enough gas left to go through almost a second one (haven't really tested, I top up gas anyway when reloading).

I run the glock on TM and AA mags because it light strikes on WEs (in summer), I run the AAPs on WE and AW mags (it sounds stupid to run "inverted" mags but I found the AA mags to not be as efficient as the WE ones)

Nifty little guns for the price, if it's your first GBB I'd go TM though, as plug&play as it gets for everything airsoft really and there are tons of upgrades available as they are the benchmark when it comes to airsoft guns (all the gearboxes are TM clones, all the GBBs are TM clones, all the VSRs are TM clones, you get the idea )

 

[AlphaBear]

I'm on it dude! I think my decision has been made, just got to sell a few bits and bobs and I'll be getting one, in black of course, that's a no brainer ?‍ I'm with you on that awful tan colour! I will report back with my thoughts on it and I'll let you know IF I get bored of it ? 

Good man ?

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Talking of AA-P01’s I joined the Facebook group and saw this. Seems like the platform is beginning to get a huge following similar to the MK23. I have no HPA equipment myself so can’t really speak about the platform. However a drum mag with loaded up with MAPP gas is something else. 
 

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[Lex Dangler]

The AAPs against the TM G17?

Roughly the same performance, 55/60 metres on 0.3s with a good degree of consistency.

Mind you, I have replaced the hop rubbers on all 3 guns (running 50/60° ML decepticons). Stock none could reliably lift 0.3s (you'd get 1 in 5/6 shots properly hopped and the rest was diving down at about 20/25 metres).

Efficiency wise, they're similar, they go through the full magazine with enough gas left to go through almost a second one (haven't really tested, I top up gas anyway when reloading).

I run the glock on TM and AA mags because it light strikes on WEs (in summer), I run the AAPs on WE and AW mags (it sounds stupid to run "inverted" mags but I found the AA mags to not be as efficient as the WE ones)

Nifty little guns for the price, if it's your first GBB I'd go TM though, as plug&play as it gets for everything airsoft really and there are tons of upgrades available as they are the benchmark when it comes to airsoft guns (all the gearboxes are TM clones, all the GBBs are TM clones, all the VSRs are TM clones, you get the idea )

Cheers for the info ? 

I'm not so keen on the aesthetics of the aap. 

It won't be my first pistol, I've had several over the years but I've been out of the sport for a while, it must be 20 years since I last skirmished! TM was always king back then and I  wondered whether that was still the case as there have been a lot of developments and new brands since... Apparently so! ? 

Good man ?

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Talking of AA-P01’s I joined the Facebook group and saw this. Seems like the platform is beginning to get a huge following similar to the MK23. I have no HPA equipment myself so can’t really speak about the platform. However a drum mag with loaded up with MAPP gas is something else. 
 

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I said I wasn't keen on the aesthetics but now I'm not so sure! 

Out of curiosity, what other brands make plastic pistols? 

 

[Skara]

Cheers for the info ? 

I'm not so keen on the aesthetics of the aap. 

It won't be my first pistol, I've had several over the years but I've been out of the sport for a while, it must be 20 years since I last skirmished! TM was always king back then and I  wondered whether that was still the case as there have been a lot of developments and new brands since... Apparently so! ? 

I said I wasn't keen on the aesthetics but now I'm not so sure! 

Out of curiosity, what other brands make plastic pistols? 

KSC but they are filled to the brim with proprietary parts (interchangeable with KWA as they are the same company but that's it).

Action Army really hit the nail on the head with the AAP.

Cheap base that can be customized via a suite of accessories. I plan to turn my black one into a full on carbine whenever AA releases the m-lok rail they showed a while ago.

 

[Cr0-Magnon]

The AAP is definitely fun and having a small bolt rather than full slide of course helps massively with efficiency. However I was surprised to find my Umarex Glock 19X to outperform it in that regard. Of course that's just the experience I had under the conditions I was in, I couldn't guarantee it to anyone else as it doesn't seem to make sense to me.

 

[Lex Dangler]

The AAP is definitely fun and having a small bolt rather than full slide of course helps massively with efficiency. However I was surprised to find my Umarex Glock 19X to outperform it in that regard. Of course that's just the experience I had under the conditions I was in, I couldn't guarantee it to anyone else as it doesn't seem to make sense to me.

Yeah that seems odd, did you use the same mag in both? 

 

[Cr0-Magnon]

did you use the same mag in both? 

Again "in my experience" but I found that the AA mags worked best in the AAP and using Umarex or TM mags, I sacrificed FPS. So no, this was with AA mag in the AAP and Umarex mag in the G19X. The only thing I can think is it's possibly just a good system. Negative airsoft has stated that the best GBBP is the VFC HK45CT (from memory he was getting over 100 shots from one mag) and of course the Umarex G19X is also made by VFC. I know indoors I was getting 4 - 5 mags worth of BB's from one gas charge, so that matches the HK45CT.  

 

[Lex Dangler]

Again "in my experience" but I found that the AA mags worked best in the AAP and using Umarex or TM mags, I sacrificed FPS. So no, this was with AA mag in the AAP and Umarex mag in the G19X. The only thing I can think is it's possibly just a good system. Negative airsoft has stated that the best GBBP is the VFC HK45CT (from memory he was getting over 100 shots from one mag) and of course the Umarex G19X is also made by VFC. I know indoors I was getting 4 - 5 mags worth of BB's from one gas charge, so that matches the HK45CT.  

Yeah I watched negs vid on hk45ct too. So maybe tm isn't the most gas efficient platform after all!? ?‍ 

Anyone else have good things to say about umarex pistols? Or comparisons vs tm etc? 

 

[Guest]

Yeah I watched negs vid on hk45ct too. So maybe tm isn't the most gas efficient platform after all!? ?‍ 

Anyone else have good things to say about umarex pistols? Or comparisons vs tm etc? 

Yes, Umarex are utter, utter shite pistols, made by VFC.
 

They look pretty, make great door stops, that’s it.

 

[AlphaBear]

Although some people think this apparatus is acceptable as weapon of choice. I just don’t get it! It looks pants. Of course I’m not just talking about the gold trigger! 

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[Lex Dangler]

Yes, Umarex are utter, utter shite pistols, made by VFC.
 

They look pretty, make great door stops, that’s it.

Ha! Okay, duly noted ? 

Although some people think this apparatus is acceptable as weapon of choice. I just don’t get it! It looks pants. Of course I’m not just talking about the gold trigger! 

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It does look f@cking ridiculous! I've seen so many god awful looking hicapas that the owners seem to be proud of for some reason ?‍ 

 

[Skara]

Although some people think this apparatus is acceptable as weapon of choice. I just don’t get it! It looks pants. Of course I’m not just talking about the gold trigger! 

Definitely acceptable.

Why you wouldn't want the best tool for the job is beyond me.

 

[Adolf Hamster]

Definitely acceptable.

Why you wouldn't want the best tool for the job is beyond me.

i know you know this, but that isn't the best tool for the job.