WAS are they with it?

[Tackle]

not just about the weight, we're not all square pegs in square holes, different body shapes & heights, different fitness levels etc etc etc, means one persons experience with ANY particular bit of kit can differ from the next guys, often its trial & error before you find what works best for you.

still good to get recommendations on what's good for the money (& what's a pile of shite ?)

 

[TheFull9]

not just about the weight, we're not all square pegs in square holes, different body shapes & heights, different fitness levels etc etc etc, means one persons experience with ANY particular bit of kit can differ from the next guys, often its trial & error before you find what works best for you.

still good to get recommendations on what's good for the money (& what's a pile of shite ?)

It is good to get recommendations, but that's of no relevance to what I said, please stick to the specifics.  Saying 'a plate carrier' is de facto bigger/bulkier/heavier/hotter than 'a chest rig' is demonstrably not true, that's my one and only point here.

 

[Lozart]

It is good to get recommendations, but that's of no relevance to what I said, please stick to the specifics.  Saying 'a plate carrier' is de facto bigger/bulkier/heavier/hotter than 'a chest rig' is demonstrably not true, that's my one and only point here.

My 901 is WAY hotter and bulkier than any of my "plate carrier" type articles. Handy that it covers more of my soft parts in CQB though

 

[TheFull9]

Precisely, as expected, and makes complete sense.

There's no getting around the physics.  If you want more coverage you'll retain more heat (which can be good in winter) and add weight.  Take away the coverage and you dissipate more heat and cut weight.  Some PCs and chesties do vary somewhat in thickness depending on how much spacer mesh, foam, cordura and webbing they use and WAS kit is generally on the thicker side of things vs something like a BFG Plateminus or some of the laser cut chest rigs out there which are literally one layer of cordura with no padding.  Just have to evaluate each product on its' merits, you can't categorise on PC versus CR.

 

[Tackle]

It is good to get recommendations, but that's of no relevance to what I said, please stick to the specifics.  Saying 'a plate carrier' is de facto bigger/bulkier/heavier/hotter than 'a chest rig' is demonstrably not true, that's my one and only point here.

Not what I said, the threads about warrior kit, great kit but not generally light compared to many of its competitors, I've owned a few of their pc's & at least 2 chest rigs, & all of them had similar build qualities,  I'd go as far to say they're almost "over-engineered", especially for the needs of most airsofters.

Precisely, as expected, and makes complete sense.

There's no getting around the physics.  If you want more coverage you'll retain more heat (which can be good in winter) and add weight.  Take away the coverage and you dissipate more heat and cut weight.  Some PCs and chesties do vary somewhat in thickness depending on how much spacer mesh, foam, cordura and webbing they use and WAS kit is generally on the thicker side of things vs something like a BFG Plateminus or some of the laser cut chest rigs out there which are literally one layer of cordura.

That's my whole point, even the average young airsofter may not have the body characteristics that most tactical kit, including pc's, is tailored to fit, never mind over the hill old feckers like me who have a bmi that looks more like saturdays lottery numbers lol, so covering too much bod in layers of nylon is gonna heat things up, we've all seen players players in the safezone BEFORE play has started already sweating like a paedo in a playground, not in the best shape & "overdressed", full loadout, helmet etc etc.

if I had to recommend a cheap rig that would genuinely suit most players needs, I'd say a bulle mle, not hi-tech but enough real estate for most pouch placement requirements & very "breathable" so to speak.