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Sitting Duck
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You ask a dozen people you will get a number of different answers.......
Service/Maintain the Krytac box is one thing
But just me personally - rather than pull about the Krytac box and dremel stuff etc....
If I was going to chuck in a Titan @ £100+ then rip out, ignore or utilise the existing mosfet
WHICH I SAY DON'T - so the krytac mosfet and its cleverly designed fitted mosfet is obsolete...
might work but I'd say don't as you would lose any active braking if you use the krytac 3034 to supply the motor
PLUS - on active braking you will reverse polarity to slow the motor which can kill the krytac mosfet if no diode etc...
Yeah if I was going fit a Titan - I would perhaps instead fit it to another build or gearbox
One that doesn't have a neatly thought out built in mosfet in there
Build up a new build box with quicker responsive gears - don't have to go too mega nutz
say 13:1 set & stuff - get some snappy response without needing to up the juice too much
I'd just consider build a nice new build box than mess about with something that works quite well already
Not saying don't fit a Titan to a Krytac - but just saying I would consider for a sec a new box for the Titan
But then as with all upgrades - you start of with a few minor tweaks and a budget of £30 to £50 say
Before you know where you are - it has doubled or even thinking about tripling or even more the budget
HOLD UP - wtf, thought I was just going to do a little tweak & find yourself having to wind it back a notch
Service/Maintain the Krytac box is one thing
But just me personally - rather than pull about the Krytac box and dremel stuff etc....
If I was going to chuck in a Titan @ £100+ then rip out, ignore or utilise the existing mosfet
WHICH I SAY DON'T - so the krytac mosfet and its cleverly designed fitted mosfet is obsolete...
might work but I'd say don't as you would lose any active braking if you use the krytac 3034 to supply the motor
PLUS - on active braking you will reverse polarity to slow the motor which can kill the krytac mosfet if no diode etc...
Yeah if I was going fit a Titan - I would perhaps instead fit it to another build or gearbox
One that doesn't have a neatly thought out built in mosfet in there
Build up a new build box with quicker responsive gears - don't have to go too mega nutz
say 13:1 set & stuff - get some snappy response without needing to up the juice too much
I'd just consider build a nice new build box than mess about with something that works quite well already
Not saying don't fit a Titan to a Krytac - but just saying I would consider for a sec a new box for the Titan
But then as with all upgrades - you start of with a few minor tweaks and a budget of £30 to £50 say
Before you know where you are - it has doubled or even thinking about tripling or even more the budget
HOLD UP - wtf, thought I was just going to do a little tweak & find yourself having to wind it back a notch
Sitting Duck
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If you are getting overspin now on 7.4v 30c
then FFS I would not advise chucking in 11.1v unless you like shredding pistons & stuff
What is you rate of fire ???
By the sounds of it you may have a 30k motor shooting past 20rps...
you chuck in 11.1v then you are going to be 30+rps and plenty overspin
with a LOT of over spin you can still shred a piston on semi without going nutz on auto
The gun will fire twice and in that time the piston hasn't fully returned/settled
on 7.4v you are probably getting away with it on semi and perhaps the odd burst of auto
because the motor hasn't had a chance to achieve full top rpm speed on 7.4v from still
Now you chuck in a 50% or so more boost to the power when you was already getting overspin/double firing
I would predict you will soon be looking at replacing a shredded piston on 11.1v
I would guess you may have a 30k motor in there to give you some snappy response but a bit of overspin
I strongly suggest not going down the 11.1v route just yet until you chrono and post your rps to confirm this
IF you have a 20k motor then yeah - 11.1v will be no real problem
but if you have a 30k motor & chuck in a 11.1v 30c with a modest krytac spring....
yeah - think you might want to price a new piston if she double fires already on 7.4v
Not saying people can't run 11.1v - no threat on a 20k
but I have smashed up a bit but taking the piss on higher juice with faster motors etc....
Post your rps on 7.4v - think you might be 20rps already
so I'd think carefully on boosting the juice just yet & perhaps be content with what you are running with atm
Funny you say that as it's exactly what I said to him but he doesn't want to spend out the extra money. He said and his words..."I don't care if it breaks as if it does, I'll just HPA it or buy a DSG lower from Umbrella Armouries."
If he doesn't really care then on his head be it. I'm bored of constantly having to troubleshoot my guns which is why for the next gun that I'll get, I'll just do some small things like maybe some shimming and relube with AOE correction and then just leave it alone. Bored of the constant hassle. My latest problem is some PTS EPM's that used to feed perfectly in my G&P and still feed fine in other guns but all of a sudden they just don't want to feed well at all, so weird.
New build list then:
ASG 30k motor
Gate Titan
Prommy 6.03
Prommy purple - It has already been ordered but when I said flat nub, I thought people would think it was a given that you would have to shave your bucking no? Comes under the whole "flat" thing but I guess I should have clarified that a bit better.
I'll give a couple of air nozzle's a go, only because he really wants perfect air seal and if you have perfect air seal, your accuracy obviously goes up because air leaks aren't consistent and he was having a problem with accurate shooting. Do you know if the Lonex ones work or is that one that you have had a problem with. Maybe a tiny bit of grease on the cylinder head will help it or will that just spit the grease into the hop up unit and lube everything up making it shoot sh*t? I mean I would at first say it's not a good idea but surpise me haha.
ImTriggerHappy
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If you haven't ordered the barrel I wouldn't bother whether prommy or pdi you wont really gain anything.
As for the nozzle a lot of people go on about o'rings but while they can improve airseal it isn't necessary on most guns. The air nozzle needs to move freely on the cylinder head nozzle and adding a point of friction is a bad idea. I would only do that if the parts didn't mate together well but the Krytac ones do. With a good pairing it isnt necessary which is why very few manufacturers do it because the tolerances are generally good. Its normally only when people start using different after market parts that fit together sloppily that o'rings are necessary.
If you are going to flat hop try the lonex 50 its what I use for flat hops and rhops as it seals well and prommy buckings can be problematic with a lot of hops because they are slightly thicker. I find it works far more consistently and use the namazu nub if you can.
As for the nozzle a lot of people go on about o'rings but while they can improve airseal it isn't necessary on most guns. The air nozzle needs to move freely on the cylinder head nozzle and adding a point of friction is a bad idea. I would only do that if the parts didn't mate together well but the Krytac ones do. With a good pairing it isnt necessary which is why very few manufacturers do it because the tolerances are generally good. Its normally only when people start using different after market parts that fit together sloppily that o'rings are necessary.
If you are going to flat hop try the lonex 50 its what I use for flat hops and rhops as it seals well and prommy buckings can be problematic with a lot of hops because they are slightly thicker. I find it works far more consistently and use the namazu nub if you can.
Yeah I tried to find a Namazu for him but everywhere keeps selling out, those things sell fast...because they work. Never tried one though and only used the prommy flat nubs but the prommy's are pretty good in my experience. You can SERIOUSLY tell the difference between stock bucking and nub and the flat hop. It's a good extra 50 feet or so for me and accuracy is better. If the nozzle doesn't work for him, I'll have it off him and shove it in my new GB backup build. Worth trying and if it works he will have "perfect" seal inside the gearbox.
The prommy barrels in my experience are pretty good, pricier than what they are worth though definitely. Not much difference between the Madbull 6.03's and this in performance but when I suppose when the Madbull lining inside the barrel goes on the black python ones, it gets a bit meh as i have seen with another gun. It is a solid barrel though and he is willing to splash on it. What is funny is he has only played 3 times and is already fixated on upgrading his gun XD
ImTriggerHappy
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Ordered and done...he accidently ordered the standard black nub but it won't realy mattter too much. He is using 0.28 at around 330fps on a 0.2 so soft would maybe be better but I went from a soft nub to a hard nub on the prommy's and the difference was actually hard to tell at all. I think the soft gave me just a bit more but negligible.
Also, managed to fix my M4 with a lonex hop up but I think I am totally hijacking this thread now lol so apologies to the OP
Krytac's are good as they come gearbox wise but if you are absolutely set on it, as already discussed, a trigger board mosfet which does require a lot of dremelling on the GB maybe where you want to go and perhaps a new motor but if you just want accuracy and range etc then a better barrel and a flat nub and shaving the mound and guide rail of your bucking is what you want. Take it from someone who is sick and tired of troubleshooting sh*t, you want a really good performing gun but they can and usually are so much more trouble than they are worth that I would just steer clear of the GB entirely and only touch the hop up but if you are getting someone to do it for you than by all means get a Titan in that thing off you go.
Also, managed to fix my M4 with a lonex hop up but I think I am totally hijacking this thread now lol so apologies to the OP
Krytac's are good as they come gearbox wise but if you are absolutely set on it, as already discussed, a trigger board mosfet which does require a lot of dremelling on the GB maybe where you want to go and perhaps a new motor but if you just want accuracy and range etc then a better barrel and a flat nub and shaving the mound and guide rail of your bucking is what you want. Take it from someone who is sick and tired of troubleshooting sh*t, you want a really good performing gun but they can and usually are so much more trouble than they are worth that I would just steer clear of the GB entirely and only touch the hop up but if you are getting someone to do it for you than by all means get a Titan in that thing off you go.
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