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THE TM MWS thread

Hello everyone. 

First let me tell you I love what you have built here and the dedication of the community to the MWS system. As an technical guy this thread was a joy to read.

Second is my question for a MWS system with a 416a5 body. Are there any options for users that want to run MWS system with an German (Bundeswehr) loadout and a required 416 platform that is not 1500$ HAO conversion? (they don't even sell the receivers alone, just kits) Any chance TM is going to release its own 416 MWS? 

Regards

 
Hi! Sadly not on the immediate horizon AFAIK, yes those spendy kits are the option.

On the plus side you dont need to spend much if anything on the stock gun to have a great performer!

If you are already into GBBRs then you have nothing to lose, if this is your first foray into GBBR then you may want to try it out as an M4A1 first before you blow a load on a 416 kit. ;)

 
My Hao L119A2 kit arrived today. Amazing quality, zero instructions! 
 

No idea where some of the smaller bits go but hopefully it’ll make sense once I start. The big question is whether I use my existing internals or whether I buy new bits.

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Airsoft J2 said:
My Hao L119A2 kit arrived today. Amazing quality, zero instructions! 
 

No idea where some of the smaller bits go but hopefully it’ll make sense once I start. The big question is whether I use my existing internals or whether I buy new bits.

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Finding new parts will be the issue. It will be loads cheaper to buy a new, new, MWS use everything you need and sell off the rest (there will  always be a market for  MWS externals)

 
rocketdogbert said:
Finding new parts will be the issue. It will be loads cheaper to buy a new, new, MWS use everything you need and sell off the rest (there will  always be a market for  MWS externals)
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Spot on. I’ve just done the maths… looks like I need a new MWS…

 
Unpopular opinion

The TM MP7 GBB ( despite its reduced size ) is better than the MWS. 

* Easier to load mags 
* High round capacity per mag
* Mags are less temperamental with filling

* So darn pointy

* So pretty
* Pew pew pew KAKAKAKAKKAKAKAKA

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Groot said:
Unpopular opinion

The TM MP7 GBB ( despite its reduced size ) is better than the MWS. 

* Easier to load mags 
* High round capacity per mag
* Mags are less temperamental with filling

* So darn pointy

* So pretty
* Pew pew pew KAKAKAKAKKAKAKAKA

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I have both and I so nearly agree with you... so light and pointy. Just the range you get with heavy ammo in the MWS makes it my go to RIF.

 
Groot said:
Unpopular opinion

The TM MP7 GBB ( despite its reduced size ) is better than the MWS. 

* Easier to load mags 
* High round capacity per mag
* Mags are less temperamental with filling

* So darn pointy

* So pretty
* Pew pew pew KAKAKAKAKKAKAKAKA

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Internals are a lot more fragile and poorly designed and executed, not the same availability of TM or after market parts for when it does break and some fundamental engineering design flaws that would have been easy to avoid. Throw in one of the most un-ergodynamic pistol grips of all time and you have a lemon.

Other than that I guess it is ok ?

 
I own both, and can kind of agree with Kali.
 

The undersize scale of the MP7 is also a downer for me, but it’s my go to for jumping in and out of windows at Anzio. Loud as hell as well for that intimidation factor (until they see the weenie gun).
 

On balance I prefer the MWS, it’s easier to dial in the FPS on an npas, and a lot more real steel kit fits it.  I also find mine is a bit more accurate than my MP7.

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Poison Dwarf said:
This looks like a great bit of kit! Can you drop a few more images as it comes out of the box. 
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I spent the weekend building but here are some of the pics.

The engineering is amazing. Every time you wonder what goes on next or how, there’s a really clever trick they’ve used to make it all work. Apart from the heat shield which is just a pain.
 

I need another few bits to be delivered before I finish (sling plate, pistol grip) but it’s nearly there.
 

Hao have just this morning sent out replacement buffer tube end caps to improve performance but have also thrown in their bolt stop plate which is apparently lighter but tougher. 
 

Fully build pics on Instagram at AirsoftJ2.

My big error was to follow a random tutorial video rather than Eagle 6. As a result, I attempted to remove the trigger assembly by hammering on the trigger. This is a very bad idea. Do not do this. Your trigger will snap and JB Weld looks shit. Use a small punch places behind the trigger to hammer down onto the assembly frame. Anyone got new triggers…

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Groot said:
Unpopular opinion

The TM MP7 GBB ( despite its reduced size ) is better than the MWS. 

* Easier to load mags 
* High round capacity per mag
* Mags are less temperamental with filling

* So darn pointy

* So pretty
* Pew pew pew KAKAKAKAKKAKAKAKA

View attachment 76149

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I own both too, and I choose them considered to the field I will be playing that day - more CQB - MP7 , more open area - MWS. Love them both, but gotta agree, MP7 mags are better.

 
Groot said:
Unpopular opinion

The TM MP7 GBB ( despite its reduced size ) is better than the MWS. 

* Easier to load mags 
* High round capacity per mag
* Mags are less temperamental with filling

* So darn pointy

* So pretty
* Pew pew pew KAKAKAKAKKAKAKAKA

View attachment 76149

Click to expand...
At least you can get parts for the MWS if it breaks.

MP7 is good, but finicky and fragile.

 
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