The L85 thread :D

Airsoft-Ed said:
AFGs would be useless on L85s because of how the weight of the weapon is distributed, it just wouldn't offer anything to the handling.

They're also supposed to be mounted pretty far forward to get the best use out of them, and being a bullpup, L85s just leave both your hands too close together for them to help in that way either.

It's airsoft so recoil compensation methods are pointless anyway, but I can't stop people using stuff on their guns so I just accept it, move on, and curse them in my head...

Anyway though, the WE L85s take the same muzzle breaks/flash hiders as the ICS, and unfortunately the Surefire issue style ones have been discontinued, from what I've heard. So if you want one for a WE you'll have to keep an eye out for second hand ones or buy one made for the Ares/G&G/etc and modify it - rethread it or just drill it and secure it with glue or something, whatever works best for you.
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Ed, do you think this would fit? It looks the same to me and I can see the detentes where the bayonet catch would engage;

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/King-Arms-Tactical-Flash-Hider-14mm-CCW-Type-3-KA-FH-46-/300967588281

 
I acutally find the afg quite comfortable, though i havent skirmished it yet, so ill probably move it about a bit at first to find the best spot for my arms.

And beauty is in the eye... And i think it looks sexy on there :P maybe i am an irresponsible l85 owner, but at at least it doesnt have a bright blue polymer handguard any more

 
cavninja said:
Ed, do you think this would fit? It looks the same to me and I can see the detentes where the bayonet catch would engage;

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/King-Arms-Tactical-Flash-Hider-14mm-CCW-Type-3-KA-FH-46-/300967588281
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Apparently it's a clone of the Ares one, which uses the same threading, BUUUUTTTT the threads are seated deeper into the flash hider, so the ICS barrel threads can't reach far enough into it to actually screw together.

So in short, it won't work.

You could drill it out so the barrel can fit further into it, but if you do that you'll lose a lot of your overall barrel length and it'll end up looking more like one of those fantasy L85 carbines than a proper L85A2.

 
Airsoft-Ed said:
Apparently it's a clone of the Ares one, which uses the same threading, BUUUUTTTT the threads are seated deeper into the flash hider, so the ICS barrel threads can't reach far enough into it to actually screw together.

So in short, it won't work.

You could drill it out so the barrel can fit further into it, but if you do that you'll lose a lot of your overall barrel length and it'll end up looking more like one of those fantasy L85 carbines than a proper L85A2.
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would it fit the G&G l85?

i only ask as my google fuu is letting me down and i can not find out the thread size on the G&G l85 :lol: :lol:

 
sp00n said:
would it fit the G&G l85?

i only ask as my google fuu is letting me down and i can not find out the thread size on the G&G l85 :lol: :lol:
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I think the G&G flash hider just slides on and gets anchored by a small grub screw or something. Have a look on RSOV for "L85 Flash Hider G&G", they used to sell all the different variations for each L85 model. As far as I'm aware it's only the ICS/WE one that's been discontinued.

I don't know why that one would be and not the rest, but going off how hard they are to get hold of it seems to add up.

two_zero said:
looks damn cool thou..

and I still think that l85 of yours would look epic if 100% tan ^^
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100% tan? Eurgh no, got to have some funky two-tone-ness in there to break it up a bit and make it look more interesting.

 
I think I may have found a solution to the out of stock vortex flash hiders for WE L85?! For whatever reason the varying manufacturers of L85s all have slight variations in the barrel thread dimensions, even if it states 14mm CCW, e.g.

http://www.rsov.com/product.php?langId=1&currencyId=1&manufacturerId=10&prodId=14487&cateId=0

This page (for WE/ICS) states a 13.8mm outer measurement of the barrel thread, with the inner of the flash hider being 14mm.

However, this page:

http://www.rsov.com/product.php?langId=1&currencyId=1&manufacturerId=10&prodId=14486&cateId=0

For Star and Ares CCW, states a 13.84mm outer measurement of the barrel thread, with the inner again being 14mm.

So, my thinking goes, it should fit a WE? right? Even looking at the design of both outer barrel threads, (there are pics on the links) they look very similar.

For $21 is it worth a punt?!

I'll let you know!! :ph34r:

 
To those people who have an ICS L85 and want to replace a twisted hop arm with a metal one, i recently found someone to make one for me. whilst i cant say that he will make any more, the forum thread in which i asked for the part contains 2D and 3D drawings of the hop arm, as well as the advice i was given about having one made.

HERE is my thread on a Machining Enthusiast/Hobbyist forum attached to the first post are a few DWGs which a machinist can use to make the part.

Ill post here when i fit the new hop arm to see how well it works

 
Quick question, looking at getting a Madbull Rail of fleabay for the WE L85, aside from the adaptor do I need anything else? It looks like this particular one is not included with any extra screws so Im just checking before I buy it and find out all the screws are missing.

 
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Here's my new baby, gonna take a little work to get her game fit and I don't have the time right now, but soon my precious, soon!!!....

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I am now a tad confused over what version of L85 Handgaurd I have. The original listing stated in the description that it was a madbull version but I am having my doubts. I am hoping it is as I brought the adaptors for the WE :)

Here are the pictures:

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There is some damage to the top rails paintwork which looks like it could be caused by gas of some description.

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There is no 'For Airsoft' trade mark which i've seen the Madbull versions.

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Cheers

Ben

 
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I should really check up on this thread more often.

cavninja said:
I think I may have found a solution to the out of stock vortex flash hiders for WE L85?! For whatever reason the varying manufacturers of L85s all have slight variations in the barrel thread dimensions, even if it states 14mm CCW, e.g.

http://www.rsov.com/product.php?langId=1&currencyId=1&manufacturerId=10&prodId=14487&cateId=0

This page (for WE/ICS) states a 13.8mm outer measurement of the barrel thread, with the inner of the flash hider being 14mm.

However, this page:

http://www.rsov.com/product.php?langId=1&currencyId=1&manufacturerId=10&prodId=14486&cateId=0

For Star and Ares CCW, states a 13.84mm outer measurement of the barrel thread, with the inner again being 14mm.

So, my thinking goes, it should fit a WE? right? Even looking at the design of both outer barrel threads, (there are pics on the links) they look very similar.

For $21 is it worth a punt?!

I'll let you know!! :ph34r:
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It doesn't fit. Reason being, the ICS version of the flash hider has the threads right at the back end, but on the Ares version, they're recessed about an inch into the flash hider.

So you can't put it on the ICS/WE because their barrels don't reach inside it far enough to engage with the threads.

BBrotherwood said:
Quick question, looking at getting a Madbull Rail of fleabay for the WE L85, aside from the adaptor do I need anything else? It looks like this particular one is not included with any extra screws so Im just checking before I buy it and find out all the screws are missing.
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The adaptor replaces the little green part at the back of the handguard and it shares the same screws.

The rail/adaptor ought to come with a screw to anchor the RIS to the adaptor, and you should be able to use the same screw you've already got to fasten the sling loop back on, which helps clamp the front end tight.

BBrotherwood said:
I am now a tad confused over what version of L85 Handgaurd I have. The original listing stated in the description that it was a madbull version but I am having my doubts. I am hoping it is as I brought the adaptors for the WE :)

Here are the pictures:

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There is some damage to the top rails paintwork which looks like it could be caused by gas of some description.

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There is no 'For Airsoft' trade mark which i've seen the Madbull versions.

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Cheers

Ben
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Looks like the real RIS to me, or if not, it's a direct clone and not a clone made to attach via a different method.
The Madbull clone RIS has a set of rails running down the inside because it slides onto a set of runners that are part of the gas block on the ICS and WE versions.

To fit it to the WE you'll need to look at Hornbill's adaptor, I think it replaces the gas block, and possibly another part that attaches to the front of the receiver above the trigger too. Not 100% as I've got the Madbull RIS.

 
Sorry if I sound stupid but, whats the handle on the back of the l86 for? (I tink thats what it's called lol)

 
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