The L85 thread :D

Richie Boyle · Nov 10, 2014

i had a chat with a well known airsoft tech about L85s yesterday. G&G are known for locking up and ICS is supposedly the better brand but he recommends real sword for authenticity due to their habit of over-engineering and making their guns almost ounce for ounce similiar to the real thing. he reckons most of their guns are virtually indestructable due to the materials used so i am now divided between buying ICS or real sword (although i havent priced real swords version yet)

Sappysid101 · Nov 10, 2014

My ICS, no internal upgrades

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BBrotherwood · Nov 10, 2014

Richie Boyle said:
i had a chat with a well known airsoft tech about L85s yesterday. G&G are known for locking up and ICS is supposedly the better brand but he recommends real sword for authenticity due to their habit of over-engineering and making their guns almost ounce for ounce similiar to the real thing. he reckons most of their guns are virtually indestructable due to the materials used so i am now divided between buying ICS or real sword (although i havent priced real swords version yet)

I have never even heard of a version made by Real Sword before. Cant find any info on one either on google...

TheGrover · Nov 10, 2014

Does anyone know if the ICS version accepts PTS EPMs? Im looking at swapping to mid caps and quite like their p-mag design.

Lowlander · Nov 10, 2014

TheGrover said:
Does anyone know if the ICS version accepts PTS EPMs? Im looking at swapping to mid caps and quite like their p-mag design.

I would think so, It looks to be modeled from the EMAG rather than the PMAG and they (PTS) state 416 compatibility as that has an extended magwell similar in length to the sa80

JamesAirsofterAgent · Nov 10, 2014

Sappysid101 said:
My ICS, no internal upgrades

'Tis beautiful! :wub: !!!!

b1n0gHo5t · Nov 10, 2014

JamesAirsofterAgent said:
'Tis beautiful!

:wub: !!!!

Take the beer goggles off tis a megabeast

Needs a DD face lift before it can be considered beautiful!

Airsoft-Ed · Nov 10, 2014

Can confirm there isn't a Real Sword L85.

There's ICS, G&G, Army Armament, Ares, STAR and WE... And HFC... Which is a springer, so it doesn't count.

Also, here's my two most recent photos:

M_P · Nov 10, 2014

Richie Boyle said:
i had a chat with a well known airsoft tech about L85s yesterday. G&G are known for locking up and ICS is supposedly the better brand but he recommends real sword for authenticity due to their habit of over-engineering and making their guns almost ounce for ounce similiar to the real thing. he reckons most of their guns are virtually indestructable due to the materials used so i am now divided between buying ICS or real sword (although i havent priced real swords version yet)

Airsoft-Ed said:
Can confirm there isn't a Real Sword L85.

There's ICS, G&G, Army Armament, Ares, STAR and WE... And HFC... Which is a springer, so it doesn't count.

Sounds like this well known Airsoft tech can't tell the difference between an l85 and type 97

Monty · Nov 10, 2014

Richie Boyle said:
i had a chat with a well known airsoft tech about L85s yesterday. G&G are known for locking up and ICS is supposedly the better brand but he recommends real sword for authenticity due to their habit of over-engineering and making their guns almost ounce for ounce similiar to the real thing. he reckons most of their guns are virtually indestructable due to the materials used

I think he was on about the Star version..

cavninja · Nov 10, 2014

Airsoft-Ed said:
Can confirm there isn't a Real Sword L85.

There's ICS, G&G, Army Armament, Ares, STAR and WE... And HFC... Which is a springer, so it doesn't count.

Also, here's my two most recent photos:

Lookin' good Ed! Sorry for a bone question, but does the rifle still accept a bayonet with the new muzzle flash?

Airsoft-Ed · Nov 10, 2014

cavninja said:
Lookin' good Ed! Sorry for a bone question, but does the rifle still accept a bayonet with the new muzzle flash?

I think it does, but I don't have one to try it.

TacMaster · Nov 10, 2014

I'm still not 100% certain whether I like the tan look on the A2 or not.....

TheGrover · Nov 10, 2014

Hopefully Ed wont ban me for this blasphemy

Here is my New ICS L85

New/changed parts from stock (no particular order):

Madbull DD rail
entry-level G&P 1x30 dot sight on
no-brand 20mm riser on
B&T dovetail to weaver rail adapter
knock off magpull AFG (coz there were no real ones for sale that i could find)
Swiss Arms sight protector
Madbull blue rubber
Element H nub (untested)
and a bit of a plastic toothpick to lift the hop arm, so it doesnt send my BBs to god

The camera quality doesn't do it justice, it looks much better than the picture makes out.

Now to get a PEQ box so i can actually fit a battery in it and a few PTS mags and this will be my very own unique Tactical SA80 A2

Airsoft-Ed · Nov 10, 2014

TacMaster said:
I'm still not 100% certain whether I like the tan look on the A2 or not.....

I hated it at first, there's a post somewhere on Facebook where I swore I'd never paint it lol. But it really grew on me.

JamesAirsofterAgent · Nov 10, 2014

So glad I created this thread!!!!!!!! Except from being extremely jealous of you Ed!

sp00n · Nov 10, 2014

Richie Boyle said:
i had a chat with a well known airsoft tech about L85s yesterday. G&G are known for locking up and ICS is supposedly the better brand but he recommends real sword for authenticity due to their habit of over-engineering and making their guns almost ounce for ounce similiar to the real thing. he reckons most of their guns are virtually indestructable due to the materials used so i am now divided between buying ICS or real sword (although i havent priced real swords version yet)

in G&G's defense, they do have a "unlock" or "spring tension release" button, it basically disengages the anti reverse latch (accessible in the mag-well), and the only reason they do lockup is due to them "pre-loading" (similar to a PSG1), though this can be dealt with by swapping the sector gear for a v2/3 one .... which also means swapping the piston and spring (as they are PSG1 style too) and adding a 10mm spacer in between the piston and piston head.

i did read somewhere though that G&G no longer use the old style (PSG1 style) setup .... but i am not 100% sure as i cannot locate the source

Del Monty · Nov 10, 2014

TheGrover said:
Hopefully Ed wont ban me for this blasphemy

Here is my New ICS L85

New/changed parts from stock (no particular order):

Madbull DD rail

entry-level G&P 1x30 dot sight on

no-brand 20mm riser on

B&T dovetail to weaver rail adapter

knock off magpull AFG (coz there were no real ones for sale that i could find)

Swiss Arms sight protector

Madbull blue rubber

Element H nub (untested)

and a bit of a plastic toothpick to lift the hop arm, so it doesnt send my BBs to god

The camera quality doesn't do it justice, it looks much better than the picture makes out.

Now to get a PEQ box so i can actually fit a battery in it and a few PTS mags and this will be my very own unique Tactical SA80 A2

Why Why Why Why Why Why would you have an angled foregrip on the weapon ..it looks ghastly.

cavninja · Nov 10, 2014

Thanks, I'll try it out, I do have a real steel bayonet, can you recommend a good source for a new style muzzle flash for a WE SA80?

I do have to admit, I'm not a huge fan of the tan weapons, even the real ones I have seen used in Afghan, but it may grow on me?

My initial reaction on an angled fore grip and other bits was "Ewwwwww!!" but having looked at it and various others I've come to the conclusion that it's ok, just as there are so many M4 manufacturers and they can be pimped in every which way, some not necessarily accurate representations, then why not the SA80?

I think it just proves its adaptability and versatility?!

But to put my comments in to context, I will NOT be doing it to mine!!

h34r:

Airsoft-Ed · Nov 10, 2014

AFGs would be useless on L85s because of how the weight of the weapon is distributed, it just wouldn't offer anything to the handling.

They're also supposed to be mounted pretty far forward to get the best use out of them, and being a bullpup, L85s just leave both your hands too close together for them to help in that way either.

It's airsoft so recoil compensation methods are pointless anyway, but I can't stop people using stuff on their guns so I just accept it, move on, and curse them in my head...

Anyway though, the WE L85s take the same muzzle breaks/flash hiders as the ICS, and unfortunately the Surefire issue style ones have been discontinued, from what I've heard. So if you want one for a WE you'll have to keep an eye out for second hand ones or buy one made for the Ares/G&G/etc and modify it - rethread it or just drill it and secure it with glue or something, whatever works best for you.

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