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The 'How Did Your Airsoft Day Go? Thread

Today, the lad and I wandered off to Splatoon, a smallish airsoft and paintball in deepest Essex.  I had been once before for a boot fair, but this was to be our first time playing there.

The safe zone is pretty large and well appointed with remarkably good toilet facilities, a tap for water, a decent food stall selling the usual range of drinks, snacks and burgers (actually including vegetarian!) and HPA filling points.  It just about absorbed the 90-100 players who were present.  All weapons except pistols must wear a muzzle sock in the safe zone.

After finding a table and chronoing (which opened early and ran very efficiently), we were ready for the first game; this was a simple domination using the four available playing areas (two are being upgraded), two of which were wooded with lots of small structures, while the others contained a variety of larger structures, mostly built from old shipping containers, a kill house and a couple of wrecked helicopters.  This was a good, fun game which provided us with a good opportunity to explore the areas that were in play.  Hit taking seemed to be very good and the game ran well; apart from the last five minutes of the day, all weapons except support weapons were limited to semi auto, which meant that the latter actually had a distinct role.

After a quick trip to the safe zone to reload, we went back out to play a game were our team (red) had to transport a bomb across the site (at 90 degrees to the direction the first game had been played) and place it in either of the two helicopters.  If the bomb carrier was hit, they had to drop the bomb, which could then be picked up by another member of the team; the opponents could not touch it.  After a very good set of battles across the site, we got our bomb in with about 7 minutes to spare.  Yay!  Go us!

This game was then reversed; a well organised defence resulted in our opponents being unable to get their bomb into either helicopter.  Yay!  Go us, again!

After lunch, about which I cannot comment as we took pizza, there was a fun team deathmatch, which was manic, slightly chaotic (in a good way) and a good way to blow off the post lunch lethargy.

We then moved on to a fallback game; as the attackers, we respawned on a marshal who was a reasonable distance behind us, while the defenders had three lives in each of the four zones.  We pushed them out of the woods quite rapidly and then got stuck attempting to break into the first of the container structure areas, thanks to a gritty defence by our opponents.  Eventually, we managed to break into the area, although many of our team were taken out by a superb pyro throw which sailed over one of the helicopters and exploded, taking out all of the players who were clustered behind it.  We slowly pushed up and were just starting to move into the final zone when we ran out of time.

As so often seems to happen in the afternoon, a few players became quite vocal about alleged non hit taking and other alleged misdemeanours so, when we returned to the safe zone, the site owner gave a rather impressive "motivational talk", reminding everyone that we were there to have fun shooting each other with plastic balls from toy guns and it really was not something to get aggressive about; this was very well received.

As it was now getting close to the end of the day, we went out for another team deathmatch, albeit with a slight twist; the first ten minutes would be team v team and semi only, while the last five minutes would be all v all with full auto allowed.  The lad announced that he would be keeping as far away from me as possible towards the end of the game; I can't think why.

The last five minutes were as chaotic and fun as might be expected with lots of people taking the opportunity to shoot their mates.

Thus ended the day; it was great fun, was well marshalled and made the best use of the four areas of the site that were available.  We left very satisfied and will definitely return.

As the lad is off to train for Cambrian Patrol and then back off to university, while I have rehearsals for our third festival gig of the summer and the festival, our next game will be at Op-Tac's The Kingdom near Stoke in early September.

Weapons used:
Me:
LCT PP-19-01
APS UAR
Milbro M1911 Classic (CO2) - until it died just after lunch.

The lad:
CYMA AKS74U
LCT AS-VAL
ASG XP18 Commander (CO2)

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Today, the lad and I wandered off to Splatoon, a smallish airsoft and paintball in deepest Essex.  I had been once before for a boot fair, but this was to be our first time playing there.

The safe zone is pretty large and well appointed with remarkably good toilet facilities, a tap for water, a decent food stall selling the usual range of drinks, snacks and burgers (actually including vegetarian!) and HPA filling points.  It just about absorbed the 90-100 players who were present.  All weapons except pistols must wear a muzzle sock in the safe zone.

After finding a table and chronoing (which opened early and ran very efficiently), we were ready for the first game; this was a simple domination using the four available playing areas (two are being upgraded), two of which were wooded with lots of small structures, while the others contained a variety of larger structures, mostly built from old shipping containers, a kill house and a couple of wrecked helicopters.  This was a good, fun game which provided us with a good opportunity to explore the areas that were in play.  Hit taking seemed to be very good and the game ran well; apart from the last five minutes of the day, all weapons except support weapons were limited to semi auto, which meant that the latter actually had a distinct role.

After a quick trip to the safe zone to reload, we went back out to play a game were our team (red) had to transport a bomb across the site (at 90 degrees to the direction the first game had been played) and place it in either of the two helicopters.  If the bomb carrier was hit, they had to drop the bomb, which could then be picked up by another member of the team; the opponents could not touch it.  After a very good set of battles across the site, we got our bomb in with about 7 minutes to spare.  Yay!  Go us!

This game was then reversed; a well organised defence resulted in our opponents being unable to get their bomb into either helicopter.  Yay!  Go us, again!

After lunch, about which I cannot comment as we took pizza, there was a fun team deathmatch, which was manic, slightly chaotic (in a good way) and a good way to blow off the post lunch lethargy.

We then moved on to a fallback game; as the attackers, we respawned on a marshal who was a reasonable distance behind us, while the defenders had three lives in each of the four zones.  We pushed them out of the woods quite rapidly and then got stuck attempting to break into the first of the container structure areas, thanks to a gritty defence by our opponents.  Eventually, we managed to break into the area, although many of our team were taken out by a superb pyro throw which sailed over one of the helicopters and exploded, taking out all of the players who were clustered behind it.  We slowly pushed up and were just starting to move into the final zone when we ran out of time.

As so often seems to happen in the afternoon, a few players became quite vocal about alleged non hit taking and other alleged misdemeanours so, when we returned to the safe zone, the site owner gave a rather impressive "motivational talk", reminding everyone that we were there to have fun shooting each other with plastic balls from toy guns and it really was not something to get aggressive about; this was very well received.

As it was now getting close to the end of the day, we went out for another team deathmatch, albeit with a slight twist; the first ten minutes would be team v team and semi only, while the last five minutes would be all v all with full auto allowed.  The lad announced that he would be keeping as far away from me as possible towards the end of the game; I can't think why.

The last five minutes were as chaotic and fun as might be expected with lots of people taking the opportunity to shoot their mates.

Thus ended the day; it was great fun, was well marshalled and made the best use of the four areas of the site that were available.  We left very satisfied and will definitely return.

As the lad is off to train for Cambrian Patrol and then back off to university, while I have rehearsals for our third festival gig of the summer and the festival, our next game will be at Op-Tac's The Kingdom near Stoke in early September.

Weapons used:
Me:
LCT PP-19-01
APS UAR
Milbro M1911 Classic (CO2) - until it died just after lunch.

The lad:
CYMA AKS74U
LCT AS-VAL
ASG XP18 Commander (CO2)

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I was also at splatoon today ? It’s my go to site now after being constantly let down by the closest site to me, and I’ve never had an issue with their marshals or players which is fantastic. Shame you was the opposite team ?

 
I was also at splatoon today ? It’s my go to site now after being constantly let down by the closest site to me, and I’ve never had an issue with their marshals or players which is fantastic. Shame you was the opposite team ?
Hi!  It was a good day; both teams fought really hard!

I like the idea of putting a sock over the barrels. 
I had heard of it, but never encountered it before.  I do like it; it gives extra reassurance in case some muppet pulls the trigger in the safe zone.

 
By 'gun sock' I presume you mean one of these

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An actual sock wouldn't stop a BB at all.

That's the one good thing Absolute Airsoft insisted on having.

 
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Barrel sock / condom - I’m not surprised that it was brought up at an airsoft & paintball site.

The surprising thing would be that it’s not more common.

Basic rental paintball tends to have gun racks on the way out to play, and safety keeps them out of the safe zone 

When you bring in own gunners then you need to keep the safe zone safe - my first experience of this was that we were required to leave ours in the staff shed (we were playing at a rental site with our own guns, mixed among the rental players)

Event & tournament paintball requires barrel blocking as well as degassing etc before leaving the game area - and the standard is battle socks

They are also useful for dead players - put it in the rules that the barrel blocker must be fitted when eliminated and the casually wandering sneaky player without their barrel blocked should be more obvious to challenge them 

Once they are known of its hard to argue against them as a safety product 

They come for free as standard with a new paintball gun, or around £5 or £6 to buy at retail prices

 
I'd (sadly) be in favour of them, since I've seen far, far too many instances of "no firing at all in the safe zone, no exceptions" being interpreted as not applying to regulars, marshals'-mates, marshals, the site owner...

Which is the even sadder part, that you can mandate anything you like, but if it's not actually enforced - with penalties beyond a token yell from the site shop - then the problem people will continue to create problem situations.

I just switch to more casual eyepro in "safe" zones now. ?

 
I'd (sadly) be in favour of them, since I've seen far, far too many instances of "no firing at all in the safe zone, no exceptions" being interpreted as not applying to regulars, marshals'-mates, marshals, the site owner...

Which is the even sadder part, that you can mandate anything you like, but if it's not actually enforced - with penalties beyond a token yell from the site shop - then the problem people will continue to create problem situations.

I just switch to more casual eyepro in "safe" zones now. ?
Pulling the trigger should result in the player's day ending immediately.  Eyes are too valuable to take chances and there is no valid reason to take a gun off 'safe' and pull the trigger in the safe zone.

 
Pulling the trigger should result in the player's day ending immediately.  Eyes are too valuable to take chances and there is no valid reason to take a gun off 'safe' and pull the trigger in the safe zone.
I was in one of the safezone containers at splatoon yesterday and there was a few guys firing inside, barrel socks off. Luckily the mags was out and the chambers empty but as they was rentals, that was definitely due to luck rather than them checking it was clear etc (Not that it excuses it) admittedly they was taken care of by a marshal, but still not ideal.

Prior to the barrel sock rule, somebody was shot in the safe zone during an airsoft event which is why I think it was introduced. Personally I'm a huge fan of it as it does eliminate a lot of the risk, but only if people use their due diligence and actually adhere to the rules set by the site.

 
Just a little scary story about dry firing ……. New marshal blinded in one eye with CO2 from an empty paintball gun ……

https://www.scotsman.com/news/paintball-gun-shot-leaves-ex-soldier-blind-in-one-eye-2444047

Safe zone has a clue in its name 

Health and safety has a bad name from the over zealous clip board brigade, but the HSE are the primary source of exposing H&S myths.

Prior to Health and safety being put into legislation it was a matter of routine to die in the UKs building sites and factories.  That has mostly been stopped

The most simple form of safety is to apply common sense - which is extremely uncommon

When a site cannot be bothered to enforce dry firing & unloading discipline in the safe zone, that’s when you need to wonder about other basics

 
Just a little scary story about dry firing ……. New marshal blinded in one eye with CO2 from an empty paintball gun ……

https://www.scotsman.com/news/paintball-gun-shot-leaves-ex-soldier-blind-in-one-eye-2444047


Not quite. He'd dry-fired gun he'd just checked into another marshal's face. Then that marshal shot him back with an "empty" gun that wasn't empty.  Cocking around, in other words: it's all fun and games until someone does lose an eye.

This here:

Gordon Reid, site manager of Ape, said it was a one-off. He said: "Health and safety at Ape is paramount. This sort of incident has never happened before or since."


As we like to say in Jockland to double confirm that we believe something: Aye. Right.

Although I'm sure their accident book (if they even have one) was completely empty, until suddenly it wasn't.

This is why I don't trust anyone at sites now, up to and including owners.  It shouldn't be that way, but it do.

 
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I nearly got hit by a very close range ricochet in the safe zone at Spec Ops, an incident I mentioned a while ago.   Happy to say that Carlos now shouts very loudly at anyone who dry-fires in the safe zone.  But with the number of rentals fiddling with their triggers, and people on the wrong place on the good ol' Dunning-Kruger graph still thinking 'no mag = safe' then things will still go wrong and I feel better when I have some eye pro on.   I have a pair of Bolle glasses which I now use for the chrono / range test, and they often stay on at other times too, if the kiddies are getting a bit hyperactive.

And hey, nobody's perfect + "shit happens".  Even safe, sensible people can make a mistake or slip or do something momentarily idiotic.   I managed to shoot someone (out in the game zone) in the "Gentlemen's Particulars" from about a foot away because I hadn't cleared my pistol properly and managed to pull the trigger when it wasn't pointed safely.  (Honestly, I was still aiming for the ground... but missed!)
Poor bugger was in a lot of pain, and I'm grateful he forgave me, rather than punching me straight in the chops.

I'm not saying I'm necessarily "safe and sensible", maybe I'm an idiot ;) , but I have spent an lot of time around various firearms so I'm supposedly well trained.  But that one time I messed up and I still burn with a sense of shame over it.

All in all, I'd be happy to use a barrel sock in the safe zone (and indeed between the safe zone and the game area)

 
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I need got hit by a very close range ricochet in the safe zone at Spec Ops, an incident I mentioned a while ago.   Happy to say that Carlos now shouts very loudly at anyone who dry-fires in the safe zone.  But with the number of rentals fiddling with their triggers, and people on the wrong place on the good ol' Dunning-Kruger graph still thinking 'no mag = safe' then things will still go wrong and I feel better when I have some eye pro on.   I have a pair of Bolle glasses which I now use for the chrono / range test, and they often stay on at other times too, if the kiddies are getting a bit hyperactive.

And hey, nobody's perfect + "shit happens".  Even safe, sensible people can make a mistake or slip or do something momentarily idiotic.   I managed to shoot someone (out in the game zone) in the "Gentlemen's Particulars" from about a foot away because I hadn't cleared my pistol properly and managed to pull the trigger when it wasn't pointed safely.  (Honestly, I was still aiming for the ground... but missed!)
Poor bugger was in a lot of pain, and I'm grateful he forgave me, rather than punching me straight in the chops.

I'm not saying I'm necessarily "safe and sensible", maybe I'm an idiot ;) , but I have spent an lot of time around various firearms so I'm supposedly well trained.  But that one time I messed up and I still burn with a sense of shame over it.

All in all, I'd be happy to use a barrel sock in the safe zone (and indeed between the safe zone and the game area)
i always keep my eye pro on in safezones, so many dry fires from the rentals when i last went on a skirmish

 
Happy to say that Carlos now shouts very loudly at anyone who dry-fires in the safe zone


Thereby demonstrating loudly that there are no actual consequences for it.

I don't want to see people sat out of games, or invited to leave the site, but I think it's worse to have rules-that-are-more-what-you'd-call-guidelines.  Either mean what you say, or don't waste everyone's time by saying it.

 
Got to admit I fired my rif once to check the battery within the safe zone on my second skirmish day, I had checked the rif was empty & no mag & pointed at the ground & away from any other players and I got a well deserved bollocking. you live & learn...

 
I managed to shoot someone (out in the game zone) in the "Gentlemen's Particulars" from about a foot away because I hadn't cleared my pistol properly and managed to pull the trigger when it wasn't pointed safely.  (Honestly, I was still aiming for the ground... but missed!)
Poor bugger was in a lot of pain, and I'm grateful he forgave me, rather than punching me straight in the chops


I think I remember that incident - it was rather funny.

Thereby demonstrating loudly that there are no actual consequences for it


To be fair Carlos only shouts at you once.  it tends to stick in the memory.

Having said that I was trying to fix the boy's Specna not that long ago and a lose wire on the mosfet meant the gun cycled when I wasn't expecting it in the safe zone.  Luckily it was cleared beforehand after leaving the chrono; but the barrel was pointing directly at someone who happened to be watching, and it made both of us jump.  Thankfully he saw I was nowhere near the trigger so explanations were short....  But it shows shit can happen when you least expect it.

 
Out on the game zone at Combat Airsoft Thetford a couple of years back and I loaded my RIF and blatted some shots off before the marshals had told us we could. I assumed because we were in the game zone people would have eyepro on, but fair play to the marshals they do a final check on everyone once they pass a certain flag.

I was immediately escorted back to the safe zone and removed from site. And I'll tell you now, I'll never do it again!

 
Out on the game zone at Combat Airsoft Thetford a couple of years back and I loaded my RIF and blatted some shots off before the marshals had told us we could. I assumed because we were in the game zone people would have eyepro on, but fair play to the marshals they do a final check on everyone once they pass a certain flag.

I was immediately escorted back to the safe zone and removed from site. And I'll tell you now, I'll never do it again!
That sounds a bit harsh?

☹️

 
Got to admit I fired my rif once to check the battery within the safe zone on my second skirmish day, I had checked the rif was empty & no mag & pointed at the ground & away from any other players and I got a well deserved bollocking. you live & learn...
You did; sadly, some do not.

Having said that I was trying to fix the boy's Specna not that long ago and a lose wire on the mosfet meant the gun cycled when I wasn't expecting it in the safe zone.  Luckily it was cleared beforehand after leaving the chrono; but the barrel was pointing directly at someone who happened to be watching, and it made both of us jump.  Thankfully he saw I was nowhere near the trigger so explanations were short....  But it shows shit can happen when you least expect it.
I had something similar happen; I plugged the battery in while the RIF was on a table in the safe zone and the mosfet failed, resulting in it going full auto.  I quickly disconnected the battery and explained the situation to the site owner, who did not have the look of a very impressed chap and is not someone you would want to mess with.  Once I had explained what had happened, supported by other players, he was cool about it.  Sometimes, things like that happen and it is not the player's fault.

On another day at the same site, a player was being a dick (thus breaking the first rule of airsoft) and let off a round in the safe zone which pinged off the wobbly tin; the owner came storming over and told him to pack his gear and leave.  His mates tried to remonstrate with the owner and were told that they could also leave if they disagreed with his decision.

 
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