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The GBBR Thread

me too, not immune to the smell (I can still smell it), but certainly when playing/gassing mags I don't really notice it that much any more.

 
yup, but only really to those you are shooting at. My G5 tends to overpower any noise coming from the barrel with its bolt going back and forth lol :D (earplugs needed lol)

 
yup, but only really to those you are shooting at. My G5 tends to overpower any noise coming from the barrel with its bolt going back and forth lol :D (earplugs needed lol)
Earplugs? Really? is it a Gen 1 that doesnt have the rubber to absorb the shock of the bolt return?

 
nope gen 2, was firing it at 400 fps for a bit as a DMR, ears were ringing after! :D

 
yup, but only really to those you are shooting at. My G5 tends to overpower any noise coming from the barrel with its bolt going back and forth lol :D (earplugs needed lol)
Thanks I may put one in my 416 for shits but don't know how it will look

 
nope gen 2, was firing it at 400 fps for a bit as a DMR, ears were ringing after! :D
I didnt find mine too loud at all, sure it was cold and running on abbey predator at the time, but i cant imagine it getting that bad... the couple of newbies that i snuck up on shat themselves anyway, imagine their panic if i was firing something i needed earplugs for!

 
It's not actually very hard to turn a GHK metal m4 mag into a Pmag.

It's all contained within an exterior cosmetic shell so you just remove it, gut a pmag and slide it back over the internal parts.

I'm not sure on the construction of a WE magazine though.

 
is the feed for the BBs different in the M4 than it is on the G5 then? The G5 feed is in the casing rather than in the internals!

 
Ahh, yes it is. Kinda neat that....

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Personal update:

Just got back from my second skirmish with my G5. Result: Massive improvement over my first skirmish, still a way to go though.

the crap accuracy was solved by cleaning the crap out of the barrel, but the hop was still unable to lift 0.25g BBs to anything close to a flat trajectory. it ran on propane today, in temperatures that barely got over 4 degrees and was kicking well, even if it did sound a little strange, im actually worried that in normal temperatures, it may be running too hot for site.

Another interesting development (not GBB related) occurred at the end of the day, as i started shooting through all my mags, to get rid of the BBs (getting them out of a GHK mag by hand is a pain) and most of the gas. i noticed that a couple of shots hadnt left the gun. upon investigation, i found that a couple of BBs had got stuck in the flash hider and were now obstructing the end of the inner barrel... perhaps i should replace the flash hider with something a little less... empty

since getting home, when cleaning up and re-gassing the mags with maintenance gas, i opened up the gun and replaced the stock hop rubber and nub with a Madbull 60 degree blue rubber and element H nub. this combination worked wonders in my ICS L85 so im hoping for more of the same. the Element nub is also a little bigger than a standard cylindrical nub, so should give the gun a little extra hop to get those BBs flying straight.

Hopefully tomorrow i can try out the new hop, though my house is surrounded and theres not really anywhere i can shoot more than 5 metres without the public seeing me, so perhaps i should take it to my local shop's range.

More to come soon

 
Never seen beebs get stuck in a muzzle device, is it the stock one you've got on? I don't know off the top of my head what they look like on the G5 but the opening in the end must be really tiny (and presumably slightly mis-aligned) for shots to be hitting it and getting caught? Sounds like you'll want something more open at the end, any sort of flash hider style really like a standard bird cage or a 3 or 4 prong, the PTS BattleComp line is also good for that (or any PTS muzzle device really if you want high quality).

 
Never seen beebs get stuck in a muzzle device, is it the stock one you've got on? I don't know off the top of my head what they look like on the G5 but the opening in the end must be really tiny (and presumably slightly mis-aligned) for shots to be hitting it and getting caught? Sounds like you'll want something more open at the end, any sort of flash hider style really like a standard bird cage or a 3 or 4 prong, the PTS BattleComp line is also good for that (or any PTS muzzle device really if you want high quality).
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Yes, its the stock one. the inner barrel ends just before the slits and the inside is evidently wide enough for two BBs to stack sideways. if you somehow manage to get them lodged there in the first place... perhaps it was somehow firing two bbs at once, ive noticed that sometimes the bolt lock can trip on even when theres one BB left in the chamber (and other times it wont lock back at all, depends on which mag i'm using), so perhaps it fired two at once and they jammed each other in the flash hider.

thinking about it, i should check my chamber every time i load a fresh mag

 
Just remember not to over fill the mags with gas or BBs and to not cock then bolt release when there already is a BB in the chamber. Hopefully the new hop set up will fix any issues. I had similar when new with BBs shattering in the barrel and the bits getting stuck in the flash hider, all fixed by the correct amount of gas in the mag and re-seating the hop bucking which was assembled badly from new.

 
Just remember not to over fill the mags with gas or BBs and to not cock then bolt release when there already is a BB in the chamber. Hopefully the new hop set up will fix any issues. I had similar when new with BBs shattering in the barrel and the bits getting stuck in the flash hider, all fixed by the correct amount of gas in the mag and re-seating the hop bucking which was assembled badly from new.
i still cant fill the mags properly, the spring is too hard. and i had cocked the bolt as the bolt lock had engaged, though im now aware that there are a couple of issues with it (i think its the mag not the gun)

just bought a different flash hider that shouldnt let any shattered bits get stuck in it, but the original hop bucking was seated really well.

 
Leave the mags with 20 BBs in for 5 days, should soften the spring a bit. They are very awkward to load tho even when the spring softens. Once you get the hang it gets easier with practice

 
I got my WE SCAR a couple of weeks back and only got the change to give it a quick blast yesterday, but I had a horrendous time trying to load BB's in all three of my mags, all brand new. I ended up having to load BB's one at a time. Then once I had them loaded they wouldn't feed. Couldn't fire a single BB. The gun fires, no gas issues, it just seems the lips are too hard to allow the BB's to feed. Can anyone give me tips on how to load and what I should be doing to allow the BB's to feed. I've seen in a few other posts above that it is an issue with these guns, and I've looked on youtube for some help, but so far I'm out of ideas.

 
As far as I'm aware the WE SCAR takes the same M4/STANAG type mags as their M4 and HK416 series weapons. The mags can be tricky to load if you've never done any kind of airsofting before, I should know, my first rifle was a WE 416 and after my first few goes spilling BBs every where I asked a guy at a site I was at for some tips!

The WE mags normally come with a loader that takes just over 15 BBs, fit it to the mag, drop your BBs in to the loader, fit the collar to the loader and push down, you may need a bit of force, but they all go straight in. The loader is marked on the side at the 15 round point, so you can fill a mag in two goes.

Then I started using the dummy pistol mag type speed loader, I had to get my thumb and forefinger to pinch the nozzle of the speed loader and hold it in place so that the BBs would fit in, a little tricky, but I got there!

I know use a KIng Arms dummy M4 mag sped loader, that comes with a flip over adapter which i just hold in place with my thumb and it loads fine.

As for the BBs not feeding, that has only happened to me when I had a summer strength recoil spring in the winter, the gun actions fine, but it wasn't going quite far enough back to take a BB on the run forward, I swapped back to the stock spring and it worked fine.

You don't say if the gun is new or not? , if second hand it may have some issues, but GBBs are pretty basic once you understand how they function,

hope this helps?

 
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