Taiwangun Shipping Disruption (Brexit Related Content)

Speedbird_666 said:
So it sounds like we have a trade deal.

Hopefully that still means cheap pew pews from Poland in the new year - once all this Covid stuff is sorted.
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I did catch a snippet yesterday stating that we may have some how managed a free trade agreement, it will be of course at the cost of something Westminster gives zero craps about like fisherman or Ireland but whoop! We get to continue using TG and Gunfire for cheap!!!

 
Just got an email from *edit* Gunfire.
 

They will only fulfil orders over £135 from 1st January onwards. No reason given in the email or updated T&Cs. 

 
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So the EU trade agreement is no VAT on imports, but they do have customs duty now, which starts on imports of £135 last I checked. I'd like to hope that's just a temporary rule since the system's so backlogged right now perhaps, but legally I don't know of a reason for it.  Be interested to hear one, there's nothing in their terms of service.

Doesn't matter to me I buy either within the UK or from the US or Hong Kong but it's always good to know these things to keep options open in the future.

 
From what I gathered so far, it’s probably due to paperwork for export they now have to complete. I’m presuming that this £135 is a minimum spend, to cover/ justify filling out the paperwork?

 
Yep got the Gunfire email too.

PayPal will also updated the rules for us from 1st Jan.  (Haven't checked the details yet)

 
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You all buy from gunfire while smaller stores like redberet.pl which is also getting supplies from gunfire (and other wholesalers) sells stuff cheaper than gunfire on sales days.

 
I E-mailed them yesterday re an order and when can I place an order: "We do not have that information yet". 

 
The new UK import rules from the 1st of January are (as I understand them) :-

Up to £135 - vendor charges UK VAT and pays the VAT to UK govt. - Many vendors are saying it's too much trouble (they have to become UK VAT registered) and won't touch consignments under £135 both EU and worldwide. I think it's duty free under £135 but I'm not sure about that. I'll have to check.

Confirmed

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Hong Kong companies already have an agreement to pay UK VAT so may still handle consignments under the £135 limit. Hold-ups from there are due to Covid and flight availability. I've read that e-Express services to the UK resumed this week. 

Over £135 - No VAT charged by vendor. VAT and Duty paid by the carrier in the UK (Post Office, etc) who sends you a bill + handling charge. When you've paid them then they'll deliver. 

Over £900 - VAT registration, import licences etc.

Details are here:-

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/notice-143-a-guide-for-international-post-users/notice-143-a-guide-for-international-post-users

 
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38super said:
The new UK import rules from the 1st of January are (as I understand them) :-

Up to £135 - vendor charges UK VAT and pays the VAT to UK govt. - Many vendors are saying it's too much trouble (they have to become UK VAT registered) and won't touch consignments under £135 both EU and worldwide. I think it's duty free under £135 but I'm not sure about that. I'll have to check.

Confirmed

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Hong Kong companies already have an agreement to pay UK VAT so may still handle consignments under the £135 limit. Hold-ups from there are due to Covid and flight availability. I've read that e-Express services to the UK resumed this week. 

Over £135 - No VAT charged by vendor. VAT and Duty paid by the carrier in the UK (Post Office, etc) who sends you a bill + handling charge. When you've paid them then they'll deliver. 

Over £900 - VAT registration, import licences etc.

Details are here:-

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/notice-143-a-guide-for-international-post-users/notice-143-a-guide-for-international-post-users
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So can I order from TG or not? Haha 

 
RonLancs said:
So can I order from TG or not? Haha 
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Taiwangun appear to be in Poland. To get orders under £135 they will need to become UK VAT registered. Probably not worth the effort. Orders over £135 should be fine just make sure they don't charge you the VAT.  Problems with logistics due to Brexit/Covid are a whole different game. 

I'm no expert though. Just reading the rules.

EDIT: Looking at their website they don't appear to offer international shipping so they might well be unable to ship to countries outside the EU completely. 

When I try to buy from a Double Alpha in the Netherlands they require a minimum order value of £135 but they definitely ship worldwide.

 
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Lozart said:
Of course you can. As long as you meet their minimum order limit which to the UK is currently £135.
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Hmm, I dunno man. I wanted to place an order for £220 and it asked me to complete form but gave me nothing to fill in - after speaking to customer service via email that said they couldnt confirm if I could place an order at this time. 

 
I think TG do not accept UK orders at this time but Gunfire do.

NOTE: Gunfire checkout says 'Including VAT' but they told me that it does NOT so you'll have to add VAT plus Duty plus extra post to that total

 
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I kinda hope that the reason we still can't order from TG is that they are taking the time to do the VAT registration and rejig the website rather than just putting out the standard 'no under £135 orders' that a lot of the foreign Airsoft dealers have. I must admit, I have spent an awful lot of money on Taiwan gun over the years, but mainly lots of little orders.

Regardless, the VAT/duty doesn't really make much difference to the cost of the guns as they charged 23% VAT in Poland anyway, and Airsoft is 20%+3.5% duty as a sports product. I'd like to order a lot of stuff from them at the moment so I'm not too fussed about the 135 limit either way.

To those that say it probably isn't worth the hassle, I would suggest for TaiwanGun it very much is. The UK must be a huge portion of their market, everyone I know buys kit from them, often in 500 quid batches. 

Do you see any other threads about specific foreign retailers regards Brexit? Kinda makes my point. ?

 
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