Taiwangun Shipping Disruption (Brexit Related Content)

[Shamal]

Brexit was cooked up by Tory backbenchers like Rees-Mogg to protect their investments from the upcoming EU tax evasion laws. It was never about independence or taking back control.

I don't  pretend to understand it all. All I'm worried about is how much I have to pay at pump.

But I'm thankful for people like Lozart et al to help make sense of it to the likes of me.

Now leave me in peace I'm beer drinking! ???

Cheers ?

 

[Asomodai]

Interesting from Airsoft World. 

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[Sitting Duck]

I think the suspension of sales at TWG is to do with VAT/WTO

as well as shipment delays at ports (potential tariffs/duty/VAT issues)

Once clarification takes place EU deal/no deal (so called Sunday showdown)

(what another final last chance date AGAIN)

Things will start to settle down

personally I think there will be an ARRANGEMENT than an agreement as such

(like NI, loose (very loose 3~6 month) arrangement for internal markets bill)

Anything ordered after 17th you won't get for Chrimbo and even then not

deffo by New Year with Holidays etc....

11th January is a bit OTT to resume orders, but there could be clarification req

depending on WTO/VAT arrangements to third countries outside EU

Which need to official clarification from Polish/EU officials about tax/VAT

(depending on UK/EU position on 1st Jan)

So as government/official offices won't be back on 2nd Jan but say a week later

then official clarification on VAT & Customs on BOTH sides etc...

TWG have issued a statement for Monday 11th than Monday 4th

Could be clarified sooner, could be storm in a teacup, very little could change

(depends on what is actually decided)

Told ya in another thread get ya orders in early December

and if ya missed out on 10%/15%| BF discount then looks like you will have to wait it out

Could suggest that TWG are pushing for any sales asap, give fence sitters a kick up arse

but hmmm really think it is about VAT/WTO issue & paperwork for shipping/customs etc...

 

[Lozart]

I think the suspension of sales at TWG is to do with VAT/WTO

as well as shipment delays at ports (potential tariffs/duty/VAT issues)

Once clarification takes place EU deal/no deal (so called Sunday showdown)

(what another final last chance date AGAIN)

Things will start to settle down

personally I think there will be an ARRANGEMENT than an agreement as such

(like NI, loose (very loose 3~6 month) arrangement for internal markets bill)

Anything ordered after 17th you won't get for Chrimbo and even then not

deffo by New Year with Holidays etc....

11th January is a bit OTT to resume orders, but there could be clarification req

depending on WTO/VAT arrangements to third countries outside EU

Which need to official clarification from Polish/EU officials about tax/VAT

(depending on UK/EU position on 1st Jan)

So as government/official offices won't be back on 2nd Jan but say a week later

then official clarification on VAT & Customs on BOTH sides etc...

TWG have issued a statement for Monday 11th than Monday 4th

Could be clarified sooner, could be storm in a teacup, very little could change

(depends on what is actually decided)

Told ya in another thread get ya orders in early December

and if ya missed out on 10%/15%| BF discount then looks like you will have to wait it out

Could suggest that TWG are pushing for any sales asap, give fence sitters a kick up arse

but hmmm really think it is about VAT/WTO issue & paperwork for shipping/customs etc...

I think Jan 11th is being optimistic. I honestly think it'll be an utter clusterfuck until Feb/Mar earliest. Don't forget you're relying on civil servants to get their act together and that never happens quickly.

 

[Tommikka]

I think Jan 11th is being optimistic. I honestly think it'll be an utter clusterfuck until Feb/Mar earliest. Don't forget you're relying on civil servants to get their act together and that never happens quickly.

.... and of course after the politicians make their minds up about what the civil servants are to do

 

[Sitting Duck]

.... and of course after the politicians make their minds up about what the civil servants are to do

Actually that is how you THINK it works...

But in fact Whitehall try to influence the politicians

They (Senior Civil Servants @ Whitehall) don't care who wins the GE

not really, Whitehall simply gets new puppets to play with & pull the strings

You might think this is bit far fetched, but suggest you watch some episodes of "Yes Minister"

which many retired servants & politicians have said it was pretty accurate of how it all works

 

[Tommikka]

Actually that is how you THINK it works...

But in fact Whitehall try to influence the politicians

They (Senior Civil Servants @ Whitehall) don't care who wins the GE

not really, Whitehall simply gets new puppets to play with & pull the strings

You might think this is bit far fetched, but suggest you watch some episodes of "Yes Minister"

which many retired servants & politicians have said it was pretty accurate of how it all works

I watched it on the original showing.

The PM picks their favourite spin doctor and appoints them as advisor, calls them a civil servant and takes their influence.

Ministers attempt to make their mark and are advised / influenced by their departments Permanent Secretary.

Their whims are going to get nowhere during their appointment (especially when a PM is shuffling ministers out regularly)

If it was all down to Whitehall telling the PM what they can do with Brexit then there have been a few fast changes along the way with Boris at the helm.

Whitehall is a long way from the civil servants who will implement the outcome of Brexit of course, Boris and friends need to tell them what it is - whether that’s from the politicians or rubber stamping what their SCS tell them they’re allowed 

 

[Sitting Duck]

I watched it on the original showing.

The PM picks their favourite spin doctor and appoints them as advisor, calls them a civil servant and takes their influence.

Ministers attempt to make their mark and are advised / influenced by their departments Permanent Secretary.

Their whims are going to get nowhere during their appointment (especially when a PM is shuffling ministers out regularly)

If it was all down to Whitehall telling the PM what they can do with Brexit then there have been a few fast changes along the way with Boris at the helm.

Whitehall is a long way from the civil servants who will implement the outcome of Brexit of course, Boris and friends need to tell them what it is - whether that’s from the politicians or rubber stamping what their SCS tell them they’re allowed 

which is why I said...

Actually that is how you THINK it works...

But in fact Whitehall try to influence the politicians

They (Senior Civil Servants @ Whitehall) don't care who wins the GE

not really, Whitehall simply gets new puppets to play with & pull the strings

Whitehall TRIES to influence the politicians

there are some senior civil servants who strongly advise senior politicians

(and then are very uncooperative if the politician scoff their advice)

Some may argue that is what Whitehall is there for - to some extent is true

The point being is that many of these senior civil servants remain in their position

whilst the politicians move on/take the fall at ballot box

(sometimes as a casualty of Whitehall's advice/action)

Not saying Whitehall runs the government...

but it certainly advises or helps steer the ship a little more than people believe

 

[Uncle Pauly]

I’ve just received delivery of an item purchased from the US. Expected delivery time was 5 days. It took 32 days to arrive at my door due to significant delays with Customs checks, brought on by ports/airports and international couriers currently in chaos prepping for Brexit.

If you’re thinking of order from overseas, I would certainly a) avoid the Christmas rush and wait until New Year before ordering; and b) be prepared to wait much, much longer for your item to arrive (and accept all the risks of loss and damage that come with that).

Brexit isn’t only about price hikes on imports (from the EU). It’s about our borders being a hot mess for a long while to come.

Enjoy that sovereign tea, eh ️

 

[Sitting Duck]

Could suggest that TWG are pushing for any sales asap, give fence sitters a kick up arse

but hmmm really think it is about VAT/WTO issue & paperwork for shipping/customs etc...

And just now 7:00am TWG announce last push for 10% discount

#WINTER10

NB: if a gun has " NEW " in the description/pic the code does NOT WORK on it it seems

(even if they have had the item in stock for fucking weeks - if it says NEW it may not work)

eg: M904G - yup 10% off

but M904E - nope no discount even though it was stocked before BF 15% offer

(was thinking of buying the stock tube version £112 x .85 discount = £95 back then

but thought nah... gotta draw the line as I'm out of hiding spaces now)

Watch what you order - in case it has NEW in description

and order in next 24/48 hrs as this thread originally stated

as always be mindful of what/where you order from...

US/Japan have nearly always been stopped by Customs imho

Ordering from China late Jan (if it is awaiting stock) or early Feb

can get hit by Chinese New Year (12th Feb I think)

if the China crap is still in far east come then - you are gonna be in for a wait

It's Christmas - the whole world is going nutz after a fucking crazy 2020

The MSM are going full throttle with the world is ending come 01/01/2021 & Brexit

then in the next story...

Shoppers are asked not to panic buy as no deal fear starts to spread...

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Ho Ho fucking Ho

 

[Lozart]

I’ve just received delivery of an item purchased from the US. Expected delivery time was 5 days. It took 32 days to arrive at my door due to significant delays with Customs checks, brought on by ports/airports and international couriers currently in chaos prepping for Brexit.

If you’re thinking of order from overseas, I would certainly a) avoid the Christmas rush and wait until New Year before ordering; and b) be prepared to wait much, much longer for your item to arrive (and accept all the risks of loss and damage that come with that).

Brexit isn’t only about price hikes on imports (from the EU). It’s about our borders being a hot mess for a long while to come.

Enjoy that sovereign tea, eh ️

 

[Druid799]

Interesting from Airsoft World. 

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Many fair points indeed BUT equally I’d also say AW have an above average amount of brain damaged monkeys working for them so you can’t blame everything that goes wrong with your order from them on Brexit/coronavirus ?

 

[Asomodai]

Many fair points indeed BUT equally I’d also say AW have an above average amount of brain damaged monkeys working for them so you can’t blame everything that goes wrong with your order from them on Brexit/coronavirus ?

I could say that of the vast majority of Airsoft related shops

However in this case I don't doubt what they say is true. 

 

[Skullchewer]

The Thick of It is also a frighteningly accurate portrayal of the political world.

 

[Tactical Pith Helmet]

Tony Benn's stories about trying to specify the most efficient reactors when energy minister were well worth listening to.  The civil service wanted Magnox, the arms industry wanted Magnox and Magnox is what we all got, and indeed still pay for.  Fighting the civil service radicalised Benn.  He went into politics a decidedly middle of the road kind of chap.

The only state that uses Magnox now is North Korea.  The last UK Magnox was only shut down in 2015.   Lord only knows the extra cost over sixty years!

As for the Thick of It, I remember it coming out all too well.  After three decades of being involved in politics I was going for take the plunge working with one of the parties as a psephologist.  My girlfriend saw In the Loop and went ballistic, claiming that everyone involved from Malcolm Tucker down was shagging each other.   

As for Brexit, I ordered my last TW shipment weeks ago.  It weighed about as much as I do...

 

[Steveocee]

Brexit is supposed to stop immigrants not Airsoft orders!!!!

How much are we betting the people who moan loudest about this voted leave as well?

 

[Tactical Pith Helmet]

Last after the last Taiwangun order came through today.  Ordered on the 15th late at night.  

Since I seem to lose an AK mag each filmsim weekender, I decided to get a few spares.  Then I added a new 'fet for the G&G.  Then I thought about a couple of spare 1911 mags.  Then since i was ordering, I got some BBs....  

 

[Uncle Pauly]

Update: AFAIK, all shipping to UK is now suspended until end of January (apart from food, medicine and other essentials).

Just had this confirmed by two retailers in Hong Kong, one in Russia and others across Europe. I assume US also.

Apparently due to new Covid restrictions relating to UK. Likewise, post from UK to overseas destinations is also on hold.

 

[hitmanNo2]

Yeah.  Yesterday, I had an order from Germany via GLS refused by PF and returned to sender

 

[Speedbird_666]

So it sounds like we have a trade deal.

Hopefully that still means cheap pew pews from Poland in the new year - once all this Covid stuff is sorted.