Struggling to adjust to airsoft

Natah said:
I've spent a lot of time looking online for a reputable L85A2 though I haven't found one that comes with the Daniel Defence picatinny handguard as standard. I've seen a few sites list it separate though it's sometimes more expensive than the rifle itself and always out of stock.
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The only one that came with the DD rail was Army Armament, but the handguard was incorrect (as in not the correct shape etc). The DD rail appears in occasional small runs however it's mostly been out of production for the past few years and when they do pop up they typically sell for £200 (Fire-support had them at this price)

The G&G L85 series is imo the king nowadays with ICS following behind. Ares looks good but internally has some flaws (Typical ares) and the Army Armament is a budget clone of the G&G which people have said is good as well
 
Natah said:
I've spent a lot of time looking online for a reputable L85A2 though I haven't found one that comes with the Daniel Defence picatinny handguard as standard. I've seen a few sites list it separate though it's sometimes more expensive than the rifle itself and always out of stock.

I know a lot of (American) guntubers love to bash the L85, but I adore the system both in operation and appearance. I've considered going with a GBB FAL or a KS-1 but they both don't really scratch that itch and don't look as good with the issue kit I run around with. I'd also love an L115 through IMO most polymer-stock bolt-action rifles looks basically the same.
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They pop up in the classifieds from time to time, you could always place a wanted add for one.
 
It's funny watching Americans trash the L85, brings to mind the BlokeOnTheRange video ripping into GarandThumb over it. Dude did not RTFM or ask a single squaddie how to run it.
 
Lyndication said:
It's funny watching Americans trash the L85, brings to mind the BlokeOnTheRange video ripping into GarandThumb over it. Dude did not RTFM or ask a single squaddie how to run it.
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Me and some other crows watched it one evening at assessment centre and cringed so hard at the AK-style bolt handling. They treat anything non-armalite pattern as some strange foreign contraption. No wonder they hate bullpups haha
 
Lyndication said:
It's funny watching Americans trash the L85, brings to mind the BlokeOnTheRange video ripping into GarandThumb over it. Dude did not RTFM or ask a single squaddie how to run it.
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From what I've heard it's normal for him to do bugger all research on the guns he shows off before acting like he knows everything. He always did come across as a bit of an arrogant twat to me
 
Austeyr said:
The G&G L85 series is imo the king nowadays with ICS following behind. Ares looks good but internally has some flaws (Typical ares) and the Army Armament is a budget clone of the G&G which people have said is good as well
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Been looking around and both G&G and ICS have mixed reviews. Difficult to find in general and a bit spenny as well. I've read elsewhere that the DD Picatinny handguard makes the battery difficult to house within the gun. All this leads me to think I'm probably better waiting for a good option and going with something else for my first main gun.

Any suggestions for something that is reliable, not too pricey, decent out the box and isn't another boring AR? (asking a lot I know)
 
Pretty sure mine's a G&G with DD rail, not had any issues with it tbh but it's a heavy beast (like the real thing). It's an A1 tho, my A2 is a WE GBB but never been fielded yet, the A3 is an ares & really don't want to field it... want to keep it pretty. L85A1DD.webp
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I think the appearance of most airsofters' kit distracts from the fact that the actual game we play isn't really much different to paintball when you really get down to it. Look at the equipment and play style/tactics of people who do engage in the actual competitive airsoft tournaments and are legitimately trying to win vs just have a bit of fun on a weekend; 100% gamified, no relevance to real gunfighting. The harder you larp the 'worse' you'll probably do and vice versa (speaking very generally). You just have to choose what flavour of hobby you personally want to engage in. Long as it's safe and within the rules, then at a weekend skirmish you can pick whatever you like.

There's a never ending debate between the types of L85s, I've had my ICS for.. 17 years ish, wouldn't personally go with any other but objectively I have to acknowledge there are ups and downs to all of them; probably more downs than ups to the ARES if you want to actually game it though.

If you really want to replicate the A2 TES style, it's mostly between either a real handguard from a militaria fair/shop/de-ac retailer, or the Madbull. Different brands fit them differently and require (or don't) different adapters. I imagine the Madbull offering is either long out of production or they're very rarely making batches, but there are a couple floating around to buy. I had the Madbull on my ICS with the relevant adapter and it was pretty close to the real thing, certainly a rock solid fit. Not had any real problem fitting my usual LiPos, but the whole assembly isn't the cheapest option out there.

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If you just want value, reliable and not an AR, then I'd say the common go-tos these days are CYMA AKs and MP5s, maybe Arcturus AKs.
 
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