Sons first gun.

[Tom6651]

Hello all. My lad has now reached an age that I am comfortable with him owning his own AEG, moving away from rentals. He seems to love the sport and I want to keep him interested with something he can call his own. 

The budget is £300ish and I want something that will have the build quality that won't require putting more money into it. 

He favours CQB but has also played at woodland venues. 

He has shown me the below 

https://www.patrolbase.co.uk/vfc-vr16-fighter-mk2?pv=8625

But I don't know whether it's any good/worth the price tag. 

Some advice from people in the know would be wonderful. 

Thanks.

 

[Asomodai]

Hello all. My lad has now reached an age that I am comfortable with him owning his own AEG, moving away from rentals. He seems to love the sport and I want to keep him interested with something he can call his own. 

The budget is £300ish and I want something that will have the build quality that won't require putting more money into it. 

He favours CQB but has also played at woodland venues. 

He has shown me the below 

https://www.patrolbase.co.uk/vfc-vr16-fighter-mk2?pv=8625

But I don't know whether it's any good/worth the price tag. 

Some advice from people in the know would be wonderful. 

Thanks.

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VFC has some of the best externals out there. Internals can be a bit hit and miss though. 

I would say there are better all round M4's out there for the price. Krytac, ICS, G&P etc. Maybe a high end Specna Arms might be good, there are some with a Titan Mosfet inside for less money. 

 

[Albiscuit]

I would say a Krytac, for that sort of money its great out the box, well built, needs no upgrade or internals and will keep up with most stock guns on the market.

 

[EDcase]

To me that seems like a lot of money for a first gun.

What if he gets bored of it or want something shorter, lighter etc...?

 

[Tackle]

To me that seems like a lot of money for a first gun.

What if he gets bored of it or want something shorter etc...?

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agree, don't know the lads age/size but I'm guessing a full metal gun may be, or become an issue.

get a plastic bodied combat machine, will be great for him & leaves plenty left over for a suitable pistol & other bits.

 

[Aengus]

Arp556. Will have money left over for gear accessories and all that type of tat everyone new inherently wants. If you’ve got a shop nearby take him there and have a chat, look at and feel lots of different stuff.

 

[Rogerborg]

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[Dentonboy]

Tokyo.

Marui.

Every time.

 

[Tom6651]

VFC has some of the best externals out there. Internals can be a bit hit and miss though. 

I would say there are better all round M4's out there for the price. Krytac, ICS, G&P etc. Maybe a high end Specna Arms might be good, there are some with a Titan Mosfet inside for less money. 

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Thank you for your constructive advice. I will have a look around.

 

[Asomodai]

Thank you for your constructive advice. I will have a look around.

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No problem.

If he wants something that is fun, lightweight and reliable, then the Tokyo Marui M4 CRW High cycle is what I would I go for. Ridiculous rate of fire. 

 

[Tackle]

Ridiculous rate of fire. 

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& that's a good thing is it ? ?, just what we need, another "hose" monkey ? .

 

[sonofsammo]

He plays CQB and wants to play some woodland?
What he needs is an ARP9 (or a 556, as has been said, but they cost more).
For your budget, you can get the gun, lipos, charger, spare mags (X9 mids for cqb, drum for woodland) and a sight.
Already comes with an ETU and mosfet.
It's small, so perfect for use in CQB - but it has a very respectable range, so is excellent for woodland too.
Build quality is excellent, especially considering the low price point.
Don't bother with the hi caps, they're shit. 
And then if he gives up, you've not lost a load - and if he doesn't, he's got an excellent, light, high quality secondary ? 

So much win!
 

 

[Tiercel]

Just get him a combat machine, theyre bloody brilliant, small enough for CQB easily and great for woodland too. You can get a CM16 Raider, spare mags, batteries, charger and youll still have change left over from £200 for any other bits he wants like a vest or plate carrier, face protection etc

 

[Huxley]

Asg cz scorpion is a solid option, collapsible stock so good for cqb or woodland.

Don't go cheap on the charger, especially avoid nuprol they've been very faulty.

 

[Aengus]

Just get him a combat machine, theyre bloody brilliant, small enough for CQB easily and great for woodland too. You can get a CM16 Raider, spare mags, batteries, charger and youll still have change left over from £200 for any other bits he wants like a vest or plate carrier, face protection etc

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Better off getting a newer g&g model with the mosfet. Far better performance for a little more and they look nicer. No point buying an outdated model, unless you mean the 2.0.

 

[E21A]

Tokyo.

Marui.

Every time.

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Yea, because every wants/ can afford to pay 3x what they need to to get a decent gun! 

 

[ImTriggerHappy]

Tokyo.

Marui.

Every time.

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Can you back that reasoning up with anything factual?

 

[Tackle]

Can you back that reasoning up with anything factual?

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while I'm not advocating spending upwards of £400+ on tm rifles (there are many awesome budget rifles out there), I cant say I've ever heard anyone say "I bought a tm, & it was a lemon"

or words to that effect ?

 

[Aengus]

while I'm not advocating spending upwards of £400+ on tm rifles (there are many awesome budget rifles out there), I cant say I've ever heard anyone say "I bought a tm, & it was a lemon"

or words to that effect ?

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Do you think someone that spends on £400 would ever admit it's not that great? I certainly wouldn't ?

 

[ImTriggerHappy]

while I'm not advocating spending upwards of £400+ on tm rifles (there are many awesome budget rifles out there), I cant say I've ever heard anyone say "I bought a tm, & it was a lemon"

or words to that effect ?

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But there are guns that perform better for a lot less cash.

So while yeah they have bolt stop and judder feature everything else is distinctly average.