Silverback SRS Thread

[Lollingsgrad]

The mouse fart is a lol but the V2 performs well and I can't wait to try the V3, when (not if) you go variable weight piston, a VMP with mf is worth a look at as well as the wasp and edgi.

You're overestimating my knowledge, I figured mouse fart was a hilarious autocorrect :B

 

[Steveocee]

You're overestimating my knowledge, I figured mouse fart was a hilarious autocorrect :B

https://sniperupgrades.com/product/mouse-fart-srs-airbrake-piston-head-ver1-3-spacers/

 

[Asomodai]

Heya gents. 

Looking yet again at getting an SRS. 

Heart set on a Covert 16" A2. 

Want to lift .48s or heavier, not hugely interested in lots of finagling to get an extra knats chuff length of extra range either. 

Reading through looks like I need a Rapax 2j spring, fast hop, what bucking do I go with?

Regards to mags. Are the plastic ones just as good as the metal ones?

 

[Hedzshot]

Spring depends on a few things, you might need a 3j and loose a few coils. But Rapax is the way to go. Use the bucking that comes with the fast hop. 

Mags; Plastic are obviously lighter, metal are more robust. They are also twice the price.

o7

 

[JamesWills]

Does anyone know if you can put a .338 silencer onto a .308 brake?

 

[Asomodai]

Spring depends on a few things, you might need a 3j and loose a few coils. But Rapax is the way to go. Use the bucking that comes with the fast hop. 

Mags; Plastic are obviously lighter, metal are more robust. They are also twice the price.

o7

So I bit the bullet and loosened the purse strings. I couldn't find a Rapax Spring for 2J. (I dont want to joule creep so less power is fine and it means scope for a tighter barrel at somepoint).

I just went for a standard SBK M150. Not fussed about the bolt pull really. 

Grabbed a 16" Covert A2 on Pre order. Fast Hop, M150 spring and 3 extra Steel mags. 

 

[Pop]

Hey guys, I am looking to pick up my first sniper RIF and would like something quality OOTB as I have no knowledge or honestly, interest, in teching. The SRS A2 seems like a good option or perhaps an SSG10. 

Either way, I have been trying to find out the differences between the Sport and Covert A2 options? Both 16". I can't find any information telling them apart other than I know the sport is £100 cheaper for some reason. 

Does anybody have any idea on this? Thanks

 

[Steveocee]

Hey guys, I am looking to pick up my first sniper RIF and would like something quality OOTB as I have no knowledge or honestly, interest, in teching. The SRS A2 seems like a good option or perhaps an SSG10. 

Either way, I have been trying to find out the differences between the Sport and Covert A2 options? Both 16". I can't find any information telling them apart other than I know the sport is £100 cheaper for some reason. 

Does anybody have any idea on this? Thanks

Covert has bull barrel (solid with no spacers as not needed) and muzzle break where sport is hollow outer barrel into 24mm CW with end cap and uses barrel spacers.

Covert has metal mag where sport has polymer.

Think that's about it tbh, all internals are the same and performance is the same.

 

[Pop]

Covert has bull barrel (solid with no spacers as not needed) and muzzle break where sport is hollow outer barrel into 24mm CW with end cap and uses barrel spacers.

Covert has metal mag where sport has polymer.

Think that's about it tbh, all internals are the same and performance is the same.

Thanks Steve.

Am I right in thinking the sport only supports plastic magazines with short followers that had feeding issues, and the metal magazines from the covert support the long followers? 

I think if it's just the barrel then I'll save the extra £100. 

 

[Lollingsgrad]

Am I right in thinking the sport only supports plastic magazines with short followers that had feeding issues, and the metal magazines from the covert support the long followers?

Sport supports the same magazines as Covert.

PSA by the way, the HTi long followers fit the plastic magazines and feed to the last BB. It also prevents the bolt from locking forward when you're empty which I find very useful. If you're the sort to hulk the bolt forward you run the risk of chopping the follower so try at your own risk.

 

[Lollingsgrad]

Either way, I have been trying to find out the differences between the Sport and Covert A2 options?

Quick summary, probably all mentioned already but w/e:

- Sport has simple barrel with spacers and a 24mm thread, Covert has a fancy one that doesn't need spacers and a 14mm thread with a muzzle break with a 24mm thread on it.

- Sport has a plastic handguard.

- Sport doesn't have a thrust bearing on the spring guide.

- Sport comes with the new plastic mag (plastic and metal mags are compatible with all SRSes).

The Silverback website has downloadable part diagrams for the Sport and Covert you can see these differences with. I own an A2 Sport with the G-Spec barrel.

 

[Asomodai]

Hello all. Just recieved my SRS 16" Covert.

I installed the Fast Hop and Srs M150 spring. It's coming out at 292fps on .48s. Is this about right? Someone mentioned on the facebook group it's a little on the low side. If that's the case. Any tricks to up it a little bit?

 

[Asomodai]

Hello all. Just recieved my SRS 16" Covert.

I installed the Fast Hop and Srs M150 spring. It's coming out at 292fps on .48s. Is this about right? Someone mentioned on the facebook group it's a little on the low side. If that's the case. Any tricks to up it a little bit?

Just sorted it myself! Put PFTE tape around the bucking (Accidently ripped the nub so used the spare bucking that came with the SRS). Removed all the Original white grease and applied 100% silicon oil on everything that sealed.

Put it all back together and its now firing 316 FPS on .48's which is the equivalent to roughly 489 FPS on .2's. with a 2 FPS variance. So pretty happy! Just need to test the hop to see if it lifts with the changed hop rubber and I should be done!

 

[Steveocee]

@Asomodai only just seen your first post. Yeah so keep a few things in mind. The FB SRS group is predominantly EU guys who have higher FPS limits so they will always see us firing "a bit low".

Air seal "should" always be great with a SBA rubber and FAST but a touch of PTFE doesnt hurt as you've found. Shoudl be able to cock it, put your thumb over the end, pull the trigger and the piston sit a good way out solidly with no leaking.

Your figures now sound really good with what you have, with a fully tuned VMP, Rapax 2J and Mousefart I am about 319 on a 0.48 so you're not missing ut on anything.

Only thing I would advise would be to grab yourself a Rapax 2J directly from his website. Easier bolt pull, consistent power and less twang. https://rapaxsprings.com/

Have a look at some dry lube on the outside of your cylinder, again eases the bolt pull even more.

Other than that, if it is at the right power and it's working, have fun!

 

[Asomodai]

@Asomodai only just seen your first post. Yeah so keep a few things in mind. The FB SRS group is predominantly EU guys who have higher FPS limits so they will always see us firing "a bit low".

Air seal "should" always be great with a SBA rubber and FAST but a touch of PTFE doesnt hurt as you've found. Shoudl be able to cock it, put your thumb over the end, pull the trigger and the piston sit a good way out solidly with no leaking.

Your figures now sound really good with what you have, with a fully tuned VMP, Rapax 2J and Mousefart I am about 319 on a 0.48 so you're not missing ut on anything.

Only thing I would advise would be to grab yourself a Rapax 2J directly from his website. Easier bolt pull, consistent power and less twang. https://rapaxsprings.com/

Have a look at some dry lube on the outside of your cylinder, again eases the bolt pull even more.

Other than that, if it is at the right power and it's working, have fun!

Cheers for the advice!

I just had my first range test. I have to rack up the Fast hop with stock rubber to the max (8 or 9) to lift a .48 to around 100 Google metres. Does that sound about right? I have seen many people saying they only have to put it to 4 to lift, but thats with aftermarket rubber and nubs. 

 

[Steveocee]

Cheers for the advice!

I just had my first range test. I have to rack up the Fast hop with stock rubber to the max (8 or 9) to lift a .48 to around 100 Google metres. Does that sound about right? I have seen many people saying they only have to put it to 4 to lift, but thats with aftermarket rubber and nubs. 

Skirmshop UK have just restocked the 2J springs. (as a sidenote).

That does sound wrong. My FAST with SBA nub and rubber is only about 4 to hop 0.48's, sayin that though I don't like any tail end "lift" on my BB's, I prefer flat then drop so maybe I'm shooting less distance than you. I tend not to try for 100M as it's a rarity I can find a game area to make them and even then I find 500FPS is probably a touch low for that distance.

 

[Asomodai]

Skirmshop UK have just restocked the 2J springs. (as a sidenote).

That does sound wrong. My FAST with SBA nub and rubber is only about 4 to hop 0.48's, sayin that though I don't like any tail end "lift" on my BB's, I prefer flat then drop so maybe I'm shooting less distance than you. I tend not to try for 100M as it's a rarity I can find a game area to make them and even then I find 500FPS is probably a touch low for that distance.

I put a shim of rubber around the connecting to the arm part of the nub which has increased pressure so i can have the same amount of hop at around 4-5, however it doesn't hop any more then it did previously. Turn the hop up more and it just jams. Any ideas?

I guess its slightly disappointing considering my upgraded VSR can go beyond that and rises at the end of the trajectory. I guess I am looking for a flight path where when the bb slows down it rises at the end of the travel. Where at the moment with the SRS it just falls from its initial trajectory.

 

[Steveocee]

I put a shim of rubber around the connecting to the arm part of the nub which has increased pressure so i can have the same amount of hop at around 4-5, however it doesn't hop any more then it did previously. Turn the hop up more and it just jams. Any ideas?

I guess its slightly disappointing considering my upgraded VSR can go beyond that and rises at the end of the trajectory. I guess I am looking for a flight path where when the bb slows down it rises at the end of the travel. Where at the moment with the SRS it just falls from its initial trajectory.

Interestingly a friend is also having similar issues only he is needing 6 to lift a .43.

Advice I gave him was to chuck a couple hundred through it to try and wear the bucking in a bit.

Could always drop to a 50shore or change the nub out, something like a tigra(sp?) applies slightly more down the length of the patch.

 

[Lollingsgrad]

Could always drop to a 50shore or change the nub out, something like a tigra(sp?) applies slightly more down the length of the patch.

That's what I'd advise; I think the problem with R-hoppish rubbers is that they present a flat edge to the BBs when lowered far enough into the barrel. The limit stops being how much back spin the mound can apply but how deep it can go into the window before the BB smacks into the wall. Something I've been meaning to try on an AEG I've got a similar problem with (Maple Leaf bucking) is to cut a little slope into the front of the mound to see if this helps prevent the pinch jams by removing the wall.

 

[Pop]

Hey guys, I have just ordered my SRS A2 Sport. Wanted to ask about the spring quickly: 

I've heard Rapax is the way to go so I'll certainly heed the advice - I'm wondering whether to get the 2J or 3J spring and cut some coils off. Seems to be a 50/50 with general consensus. 

Would would you suggest, Rapax 2 or 3J? 

Oh and I'll be using 0.45s

Thanks,