Russian loadouts thread

[Oli.Hanks]

People passions are passions and we are getting of topic it is not and never will be my place to judge some one on how they play the sport now back to the loadouts 

 

[Deva]

11 hours ago, ImTriggerHappy said:
Yes but as its an airsoft site the loadouts posted are meant to be for playing airsoft. A lot of those get ups are too ott and should never be used on an airsoft field.  

Also as its an open discussion forum I am well within my rights to voice my opinion on it. Op should be grateful I just concentrated on the airsoft side of it and stayed away from the fact its a bit odd having a geardo fashion shoot done of your outfits. I mean my 6yr old has a dress up box but has never asked me to do a photo shoot for him.


 

This isn't in the spirit of this forum or how we operate. Just as you're entitled to your opinion, they are entitled to do the things they like and to talk about it. The fact it is a collective shows us that there is a significant interest on this subject.

You're valid to your opinion and posting wherever you like, but you should try and keep things on track. If a particular vein of discussion isn't for you, you don't have to partake.

 

[ImTriggerHappy]

This isn't in the spirit of this forum or how we operate. Just as you're entitled to your opinion, they are entitled to do the things they like and to talk about it. The fact it is a collective shows us that there is a significant interest on this subject.

You're valid to your opinion and posting wherever you like, but you should try and keep things on track. If a particular vein of discussion isn't for you, you don't have to partake.

Nothing your saying changes my mind.

If someone posts pictures of their load out and its not suitable for playing airsoft in then I have every right to point that out. 

This isnt Military Kit Collecting Forum UK its Airsoft Forum UK so while I appreciate that some people like to dress up when they say they play airsoft in it then surely pointing out that wearing it is detrimental to the game is fair play. There are lots of players who put together nice loadouts but still make sure that its suitable and won't deaden a high percentage of hits so it doesn't affect the game which is the most important part of Airsoft.

Some of that gear is full on turtle so while its pretty its not airsoft unless we start playing with steel bbs.

 

[Deva]

I think you missed my point. I'm not trying to change your mind. You can have whatever opinion you want. But there's absolutely no need to belittle people for something they like doing, or to take a thread off course trying to prove a point. End of discussion -> back to Russian loadouts.

 

[L3wisD]

Trigger, check out my new loado...

Nothing your saying changes my mind.

If someone posts pictures of their load out and its not suitable for playing airsoft in then I have every right to point that out. 

This isnt Military Kit Collecting Forum UK its Airsoft Forum UK so while I appreciate that some people like to dress up when they say they play airsoft in it then surely pointing out that wearing it is detrimental to the game is fair play. There are lots of players who put together nice loadouts but still make sure that its suitable and won't deaden a high percentage of hits so it doesn't affect the game which is the most important part of Airsoft.

Some of that gear is full on turtle so while its pretty its not airsoft unless we start playing with steel bbs.

Oh...

 

[ImTriggerHappy]

Trigger, check out my new loado...



Oh...

Your going to need that on the 29th lol

 

[TacMaster]

I've been off the forums and airsoft in general for a year or so now and I've only just come back to it. 

Before my hiatus I put together a fairly basic Russian Army support gunner kit using my RPK- I don't have any photos of me in it but I've got the ubiquitous bed layout  :lol:

The camo is the new-ish EMR digital pattern which I quite like. The rig is a Smerch with RPK mag pouches. 

I've also got a genuine Russian forces olive green balaclava, cold weather hat, knitted gloves and 'Track' goggles which do quite well as eyepro although they do mist up easily. 

So far this setup has done very well for me, especially when the game scenario involves defending an area or ambushing 'enemy' forces. I got up into the second floor of a building and held off several assaults on a village from ex-forces guys on the other team, trying to get to our VIP! 

The only things I need to complete this setup is a colder weather jacket in EMR for the winter months and a camo net to disguise the RPK a little. Some genuine Russian forces boots would work too but for the time being my old British Assault boots work well. 

 

[MSSW Rune]

My collection of armour and chest rigs is coming together nicely. I just need a WAS frag belt and a Ops core with comtac set up to go with my Warrior Assault Systems DCS. that way I can shift my utility and IFAK pouches onto my belt rather than crowding the side of my carrier. 

I just managed to pick up another AK105 too so I finally have a backup AK for events lol.

 

[ReySkywalker]

Last 2 pics, quality 

 

[MSSW Rune]

Last 2 pics, quality 

Thanks, I'm hoping to finish my light weight dcs kit off within the next month if I'm lucky and I'll try and get some pictures of it when I do. I do however still need to photograph a few of my other kits that I've got going on too. It's just finding the time to do so

 

[Kiwi92]

On a different tack, there is an increasing number of players touting AK derivatives and I see G&G are recognising this by launching AK receivers with western stocks etc to attract a more general audience. Maybe players are getting a little fed up of the common M4/AR15 platform and looking for something different ?

Anyway, Russian loadouts are often seen as expensive and confusing because there are so many and you cant just buy it up the local army surplus store.

A guide to getting into Russian kit, starting from the basic economy solutions to the more rare would probably go down well.

Russian loadouts are no more expensive than NATO ones, if you want i can make a guide for RUSFOR kits of all types, from the more basic and affordable types to the specialized and modern ones as well as where to get them, I for example am an admitting geardo and do current issue RATNIK (modern russian regulars)

 

[clumpyedge]

All airsofters when choosing gear should think about not just what it does for their game but how it affects others.

Are you actually serious? by that train of thought I shouldn't use pryo unless I know other players round the corner have hearing protection or I shouldn't shoot someones bare skin as they haven't got themselves a long sleeve shirt....

I think from reading through your posts you seem to have some sort of agenda against anyone that doesn't conform to your way of playing/train of though on gear which is bullshit as this sport is for people to be what they want to be away from "real life" who are you to judge people and suggest they may be less honest because of the kit they wear.

 

[ImTriggerHappy]

Are you actually serious? by that train of thought I shouldn't use pryo unless I know other players round the corner have hearing protection or I shouldn't shoot someones bare skin as they haven't got themselves a long sleeve shirt....

I think from reading through your posts you seem to have some sort of agenda against anyone that doesn't conform to your way of playing/train of though on gear which is bullshit as this sport is for people to be what they want to be away from "real life" who are you to judge people and suggest they may be less honest because of the kit they wear.

Did you actually even read anything properly.

My whole issue is that a lot of the gear people wear affects them feeling hits.  I have never mentioned anything to do with health and safety as bangs and bleaders are part of airsoft.

My whole point is if your gear does affect you feeling peoples hits then maybe you shouldn't wear it. Dressing up is fine but the most important part is still the game itself.

I never called anybody dishonest and if you read it actually say I dont think most none hit taking is down to dishonesty it was actually the op who insinuated that.

Next time the geardo rest mist descends step back and think about whats actually being said.

 

[clumpyedge]

Did you actually even read anything properly.

My whole issue is that a lot of the gear people wear affects them feeling hits.  I have never mentioned anything to do with health and safety as bangs and bleaders are part of airsoft.

My whole point is if your gear does affect you feeling peoples hits then maybe you shouldn't wear it. Dressing up is fine but the most important part is still the game itself.

I never called anybody dishonest and if you read it actually say I dont think most none hit taking is down to dishonesty it was actually the op who insinuated that.

Next time the geardo rest mist descends step back and think about whats actually being said.

I think you've missed the point I'm making, you said "All airsofters when choosing gear should think about not just what it does for their game but how it affects others" that's a pretty broad and generalised statement implying whether on purpose or not, that people should only use gear that has other players best interest in mind.

If I wanted to wear a chain mail suit to a game why should you have any say on if I can wear it or not... 

Edit: "geardo red mist" - yet another judgmental attitude.

 

[ImTriggerHappy]

I think you've missed the point I'm making, you said "All airsofters when choosing gear should think about not just what it does for their game but how it affects others" that's a pretty broad and generalised statement implying whether on purpose or not, that people should only use gear that has other players best interest in mind.

If I wanted to wear a chain mail suit to a game why should you have any say on if I can wear it or not... 

Edit: "geardo red mist" - yet another judgmental attitude.

Its only generalised when its pulled out and used out of the context of the whole conversation.

If you can feel your hits wearing chainmail then feel free if you can't then no you shouldn't.

Dressing up is a side effect of the game not the game being a side effect of dressing up. Its still the game thats most important. 

Yeah the geardo comment was a judgement because 99% of the time people who argue about wearing too much gear and start ranting are geardos. And I dont class everybody who dresses up as a geardo only those that put it before the game itself. 

Every airsofter should have a say in whats best for the game.

 

[MSSW Rune]

Bloody geardos

This thread has tipped it time for a new hobby.

"Could do but while I love airsoft I really cant cope with all the geardo crap lately. Thats why I am looking forward to the forum game because it will be good old no nonsense airsoft. All fun no drama and if anyone turns up wearing stupid amounts of gear like in those photos they will be politely asked to remove it so hit taking doesn't become an issue."

"most none airsofters I know treat it with the same derision as playing Dungeons and Dragons. Take out all the dress up and play it as it should be then I am sure it would attract more people and be seen as less nerdy."

"Haha so true but there are varying degrees of odd. The day I find myself taking kit selfies though I will try to slash my own wrists with a rubber training knife."

"Surely you cant play airsoft in that get up?

People would have to throw their guns at you for you to feel it."

"This is not military reenactment or dress up its airsoft and you are talking about playing in all that kit.

If you or any other person wants to collect kit and prance around in it thats totally fine but not in a game."

"And I will keep commenting until I can go to games without bumping into to players who damage everyone elses day by waddling around full armadillo and not taking hits. I believe its time sites started policing kit and making sure players remove layers that are unnecessary and affect their ability to feel hits.

That kit looks great but its ludicrous for airsoft and this is an airsoft forum." 

Your entire attitude stinks and this hobby honestly need less people like you in it if thats really your opinions on the hobby. Your comments are ill informed and the level of presumption is through the roof. If it's not "cool" enough for you then honestly leave as the hobby has been like this for a very long time and nothing is going to change long after you. The only reason there are more milsim players and kit collectors is because the hobby has grown a huge amount. I have seen it first hand over the last 12/13 years of airsofting. If it really bugs you that much find another hobby. What I find amusing is although I like my kit, I would never judge a player for their kit or presume their hit taking is poor. It's the "anti elitist/anti kit" crowd who do that best. You really are two sides of the same coin (anti elitists and elitists). 

I played in a load of that gear just this weekend past and you know what's funny? Not a single complaint was made about my hit taking or anyone in my team who has similar kit. We know when we are hit and anyone who has played with us can vouch for our hit taking as our team has a zero tolerance policy to do with hit taking. Maybe you shouldn't pass judgment on kit you know nothing about and on someone you have never played with. Just because you have a bad issue with hit taking where you are doesn't mean everywhere does. My favourite local site has very few issues and it's down to how hard they are on none hit taking and how well its run. 

 

[ImTriggerHappy]

Your entire attitude stinks and this hobby honestly need less people like you in it if thats really your opinions on the hobby. Your comments are ill informed and the level of presumption is through the roof. If it's not "cool" enough for you then honestly leave as the hobby has been like this for a very long time and nothing is going to change long after you. The only reason there are more milsim players and kit collectors is because the hobby has grown a huge amount. I have seen it first hand over the last 12/13 years of airsofting. If it really bugs you that much find another hobby. What I find amusing is although I like my kit, I would never judge a player for their kit or presume their hit taking is poor. It's the "anti elitist/anti kit" crowd who do that best. You really are two sides of the same coin (anti elitists and elitists). 

I played in a load of that gear just this weekend past and you know what's funny? Not a single complaint was made about my hit taking or anyone in my team who has similar kit. We know when we are hit and anyone who has played with us can vouch for our hit taking as our team has a zero tolerance policy to do with hit taking. Maybe you shouldn't pass judgment on kit you know nothing about and on someone you have never played with. Just because you have a bad issue with hit taking where you are doesn't mean everywhere does. My favourite local site has very few issues and it's down to how hard they are on none hit taking and how well its run. 

You can say my attitude stinks all you like but I could say the same for yours.  I have a different viewpoint to you and thats my right.

Nobody ever calls all their hits because sometimes we don't feel them. It only takes the bb to strike a part of our gear that deadens the hit that could be a mag pouch, holster, a flappy bit on your trouser or any other part that is thicker than a couple of thin layers of material. A bb only weighs a fraction of a gram  and it doesn't take a lot to slow it down. So I believe that minimising the issue is best for all.

I never accused you or anybody of being dishonest I just pointed out that in my opinion a lot of your gear is too thick and heavy for airsoft usage. I stick by that as well because you can't tell me you always call hits if you don't feel or hear them. 

I also stick by the fact that when an airsofter picks his loadout he needs to think about how it affects his ability to feel hits. There is always a lot said about being nice to each other and calling hits but I think more should be done to police the sort of gear people wear as when people go full armadillo and start wearing pads it will affect hit taking whether they want to admit it or not.

I don't understand peoples need to go all military but it doesn't bother me either as long as what they wear is suitable because not all military gear is. There are plenty of self proclaimed geardos on here who post loadout pics that I have no issue with because although it's not my thing their choice of gear will have minimal effect on the hit taking issue.

When I do get pissed off is when peoples gear is ridiculously over the top for airsoft purposes  and does have a detrimental effect on their ability to feel hits. Some of you might say I have no right to comment on what people wear but I say that people who wear too much padding have no right to f*ck up mine or anyone else's day because you want to think you look tacticool. Would boxing still be fair if one of the fighters stepped in wearing a sumo suit and a crash helmet?  No it wouldn't and airsoft is still a game and people need to remember that the game is still the most important part.

As for your comment about airsoft not needing people like me I could say the same for you. When I play at the forefront of my mind is that everyone is the getting the best out of the day because its a social activity. I play to the benefit of my teammates but make sure that nothing I do oversteps the bounds of fairplay for those I am playing against. I have played with plenty of people off here whether at the forum games I have organised or just at normal days and I would hope that they would all agree that that actually I am just the sort of player airsoft needs. As the balanced individuals who play are generally more acceptable than the odd ones.

You can reply what you like to this as its my last post on this site because frankly its lost its way in the last year.

To those I have played alongside or those I have just shared a few laughs with well met.

To delusional nutjobs like you well you can just kiss my none camo coverered ass.

Laters all.

 

[MILITATED]

I feel as if this could have been a pretty interesting thread, I personally quite like Russian gear.

The dispute that has taken place here is definitely unfortunate and I don't believe it's actually solved anything apart from frustrating the parties involved!

But from the pictures that have been added to this thread, they look incredible! I'm not an impressionist by any means but I'd certainly like to throw together some Russian gear in the future as it provides a different aesthetic to the norm. Suppose I better get looking!

 

[Oli.Hanks]

I feel as if this could have been a pretty interesting thread, I personally quite like Russian gear.

The dispute that has taken place here is definitely unfortunate and I don't believe it's actually solved anything apart from frustrating the parties involved!

But from the pictures that have been added to this thread, they look incredible! I'm not an impressionist by any means but I'd certainly like to throw together some Russian gear in the future as it provides a different aesthetic to the norm. Suppose I better get looking!

I agree completely i think seeing some good gear is great especially foor the collectors out there and the people new to the sport i basically run a battlebelt and paintball mask combo but i love hearing about peoples gear its great i wish we could get back to it 

 

[proffrink]

I won't be cleaning up what's currently in this thread, but this let's stick to the subject of the OP. If you want to debate the ins and outs of gear purchases in general then make a new thread and do it there.

From here on in, any further arguments that deviate considerably from the spirit of this OP - including the above - will be deleted.