Rubber Machete

[clumpyedge]

I have a “real steel” rubber machete but I don’t have space for it in my bag/bike alongside the rest of my gear but the sheaf has clips that could attach to the outside of my bag, would this be a problem legally or would I be best off leaving it at home?

My friend recognised it immediately as a fake without me taking it from the sheaf or knowing I even airsoft though I realised after your reply a picture would almost definitely be helpful for answers 

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Thanks for the answer

also it would be more likely a traffic officer or a patrol car as I would be driving my bike, moot point though

I have 2 rifles, a pistol, a drop leg holster, a chest rig, a boony, 2 bottles of gas, 4 pistol mags, 2 hi cap ak mags, 3 sniper mags, 2 optics (one magnified 1 red dot), an unjamming rod, 2 90 round speed loaders, 3 sets of eye protection, 2 different forms of lower face protection (gas mask and mesh mask depending on game mode) a set of Alan keys, a gas grenade, a pair of gloves and a bag of .20 bbs in my bag

in my bike I’m carrying a pair of boots, a bag of G&G.25 bbs, a pair of hiking boots , a hydration bladder (full), a bottle of sniper bbs, a sandwich and 2 protein bars for in game snack if I get hungry oh and 2 heavy duty reinforced chains for when I park my bike

my bags weight is at the maximum I can carry

• Unless that bends you're shit out of luck on using it anyway
  
• Just because your friend recognized it means fuck all to the general public, even real firearms officers struggle to tell if something is a legitimate gun until inspected upi need to treat everything that could be considered a weapon as if it is as general public have no clue when it comes to this sort of thing.
  
• Is appropriate to be transporting that amount of gear on a bike (not sure why but I'm assuming peddle bike)
  
• If the bag weight is the max you can carry I'd suggest looking at how much you actually need to take with you, Id call into question the safety implications of if the load in your bag shifts and you take a tumble
  

To reiterate a point raised above... if you actually have to ask if its a bad idea then it probably is and I don't thing Luke at Reforger would take kindly to having the police following you onto site because you cant fit a fake machete in your bag that you probably wont use anyway.

 

[AmberYooToob]

To reiterate a point raised above... if you actually have to ask if its a bad idea then it probably is and I don't thing Luke at Reforger would take kindly to having the police following you onto site because you cant fit a fake machete in your bag that you probably wont use anyway.

It’s a motorbike btw but more importantly I’ve got the message which is why I’ve unfollowed my own post, thanks for reinforcing the message hope to see you on Sunday assuming you’re going.

 

[Sawyer]

Only 6000 ish have them currently within the met out of 31000 officers. By 2020 they want the met to have roughly 6500. 

Unlike other forces, the met does not find it necessary or practicable to arm every officer with a taser. 

Please, keep explaining my former work to me. You're clearly an expert. Read "pretty much all" in my first post.

As for probbies, yeah they're frontline, they're also new and don't have the necessary experience to be put forward for the course. That's the attitude of the Met anyway, other forces may differ.

Edit: and you've still got to pass the course once you're on it. 

 

[Robert James]

Please, keep explaining my former work to me. You're clearly an expert. Read "pretty much all" in my first post.

As for probbies, yeah they're frontline, they're also new and don't have the necessary experience to be put forward for the course. That's the attitude of the Met anyway, other forces may differ.

Edit: and you've still got to pass the course once you're on it. 

It's not pretty much all though is it? Im not an expert but 1/5 of ALL officers is not pretty much all. 

I know you still have to pass a course. I also understand that if a knife was mentioned on a call, a taser unit would attend however, not all response have one though as per your original post. So if a knife wasn't mentioned, just a strange guy on a moped wearing camo and going up and down the road, chances are taser wouldn't be deployed.

I spoke with a colleague about this, his response to your original statement was the same as mine "Nope"

But hey, I'm not lecturing you on your former work. Just giving you insight of my current work. I'm probably still wrong though, right? 

 

[Sawyer]

It's not pretty much all though is it? Im not an expert but 1/5 of ALL officers is not pretty much all. 

If you're ERPT in the Met then you know the numbers are significantly higher than that. 

I'm not here for a dick waving contest. I know what I know and clearly you know what you know.

 

[Robert James]

If you're ERPT in the Met then you know the numbers are significantly higher than that. 

I'm not here for a dick waving contest. I know what I know and clearly you know what you know.

Good use of PAW. 

 

[Tackle]

my bags weight is at the maximum I can carry

Lol, I didn't want your life story, your original question was regarding attaching your machete to the outside of your bag, to which there will only ever be one answer, but now you mention WEIGHT, well the machete doesn't get any lighter on the outside of the bag compared to the inside.

 As for the rest of your kit, clearly your carrying to much kit anyway, more than you need & more than is feasible for riding a bike, you need to consider if the amount of kit your carrying will:

1. Adversely affect the handling of the bike, possibly putting you at risk

2. Have the potential for a greatly increased risk of harm should you come off ?

 For example, I'm a biker & I was constantly warning a mate not to carry his small disc lock in his jacket pocket, to instead secure it to the bike, but he wouldn't listen, & when he eventually did have an accident, the lock not only smashed his ribs, it caused internal injuries that caused him problems for years afterwards............you need to consider this.

 

[Rogerborg]

Things can go bad very quickly due to other factors, such as being shot dead in an armed response due to being Scottish in London with a table leg in a carrier bag.  

Or a Brazilian electrician getting on a tube train when Cressida Dick is running the shift.

But, you know, if your mate who knows you like rubber blades guessed that it was a rubber blade, you'll probably be reet.

 

[hitmanNo2]

As for probbies, yeah they're frontline, they're also new and don't have the necessary experience to be put forward for the course. That's the attitude of the Met anyway, other forces may differ.

Edit: and you've still got to pass the course once you're on it. 

The course can't be that difficult if they pass someone that does this.

 

[Sawyer]

1 minute ago, hitmanNo2 said:

The course can;t be that difficult if they pass someone that does this.

Posting a video once is easier than passing a taser course, but here we are...

Some people luck out, and not everyone who passes necessarily should.

 

[hitmanNo2]

Obviously a forum glitch fella...No need to quote it in it's entirety is there...

 

[Sawyer]

Obviously a forum glitch fella...No need to quote it in it's entirety is there...

Come on now, it's just a bit of friendly joshing.

 

[Tackle]

2 hours ago, hitmanNo2 said:

The course can't be that difficult if they pass someone that does this.

Jeez, the poor old guy didn't look like he weighed 10st soaking wet, why they couldn't get him under control is beyond me, & yeah the taser was totally unnecessary, lucky it didn't trigger a coronary ?

 

[AmberYooToob]

Lol, I didn't want your life story, your original question was regarding attaching your machete to the outside of your bag, to which there will only ever be one answer, but now you mention WEIGHT, well the machete doesn't get any lighter on the outside of the bag compared to the inside.

 As for the rest of your kit, clearly your carrying to much kit anyway, more than you need & more than is feasible for riding a bike, you need to consider if the amount of kit your carrying will:

1. Adversely affect the handling of the bike, possibly putting you at risk

2. Have the potential for a greatly increased risk of harm should you come off ?

 For example, I'm a biker & I was constantly warning a mate not to carry his small disc lock in his jacket pocket, to instead secure it to the bike, but he wouldn't listen, & when he eventually did have an accident, the lock not only smashed his ribs, it caused internal injuries that caused him problems for years afterwards............you need to consider this.

My response was basically just to state “it cannot fit into the bag” also my bag is strapped to my bike with bungee chords and attached to me with quick release straps (the type that’ll come undone if I just tug on them) in order to prevent my bag becoming dislodged to the left or right and causing unbalance

 

[Sawyer]

Jeez, the poor old guy didn't look like he weighed 10st soaking wet, why they couldn't get him under control is beyond me, & yeah the taser was totally unnecessary, lucky it didn't trigger a coronary ?

Yeah, poor skills, and basically just relying on the taser as a crutch for a lack of proper control. Old bloke was a dick though to be fair.

Tasers are unlikely to trigger heart related conditions, purely because they're designed to cause Neuromuscular Incapacitation, rather than transmit any shock to internal organs. Not saying it wouldn't cause additional stress on a persons body, but heart related concerns aren't as big as you might think. Biggest worry is a secondary head injury from an unsupported fall. Pacemakers are something to consider though.

Although like anything, studies go both ways, but given that there are relatively few Taser related deaths related to issues that aren't secondary injuries from the fall, it's fair to say.

 

[Musica]

Yeah, poor skills, and basically just relying on the taser as a crutch for a lack of proper control. Old bloke was a dick though to be fair.

Fuck him his had chance to comply. I don't care if less force could have been used if people aren't cooperating force is the only option.  

 

[Sawyer]

Fuck him his had chance to comply. I don't care if less force could have been used if people aren't cooperating force is the only option.  

I'm not disagreeing. Basically I feel like it could have be brought under control a lot quicker with a bit more assertive action from the start, and then it probably wouldn't have ended up in a taser deployment, and therefore not in the papers, and her not ending up in court.

 

[Tackle]

Yeah, poor skills, and basically just relying on the taser as a crutch for a lack of proper control. Old bloke was a dick though to be fair.

Tasers are unlikely to trigger heart related conditions, purely because they're designed to cause Neuromuscular Incapacitation, rather than transmit any shock to internal organs. Not saying it wouldn't cause additional stress on a persons body, but heart related concerns aren't as big as you might think. Biggest worry is a secondary head injury from an unsupported fall. Pacemakers are something to consider though.

Although like anything, studies go both ways, but given that there are relatively few Taser related deaths related to issues that aren't secondary injuries from the fall, it's fair to say.

Yeah, being a total twat, but given his obvious mature years, those involved shouldn't take anything for granted, & yeah, easy to upset the rhythm of a pacemaker, especially the type that can restart the heart by way of a shock (another one lol ?).

you just expect better of plod, especially in this day & age when educational standards upon entry have allegedly been raised............although I think that's an argument for another thread ?

 

[Sawyer]

you just expect better of plod, especially in this day & age when educational standards upon entry have allegedly been raised............although I think that's an argument for another thread ?

Some of the best coppers I ever worked with were ex-squaddies. Some of the worst were graduates.

For another thread though, aye? ?

 

[Tackle]

Fuck him his had chance to comply. I don't care if less force could have been used if people aren't cooperating force is the only option.  

Really, the stroppy old bugger was 65 at the time, probably a grandad, so if your grandad was pissed off with the attitude of a couple of very amateur coppers (I think we can all agree in the scheme of things they were shite), & let's not forget the "sus" laws were scrapped years ago, so grandad ?? is not required to identify himself unless very specific criteria is met, would you be happy if your grandad was not only tasered, but in a manner that has the potential of causing serious injuries, that would be ok would it.

im 100% pro police, many mates serving & but for severe rta injuries,I would prob be one now, & agree that non compliance may then need an escalation of APPROPRIATE force, but if 2 cops, one a burly bloke, the other a surley mare, can't reasonably restrain an elderly skinny Rasta who's non-violent, they're in the wrong job.