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Asomodai
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Just got off the phone with BF.
I don't know much more at the moment. The guy who I spoke to said it was his manager who seized the package and said to send an email with evidence that I can import the RIF. I sent my UKARA number, registered address (Just in case the address was wrong) and my UKARA issuing site.
This can be a little encouraging as it assumes that it was just a UKARA issue. But as he didn't know much more, it could be something like it was too hot entering the country, in that case then there is no defence!
We'll see what happens.
I don't know much more at the moment. The guy who I spoke to said it was his manager who seized the package and said to send an email with evidence that I can import the RIF. I sent my UKARA number, registered address (Just in case the address was wrong) and my UKARA issuing site.
This can be a little encouraging as it assumes that it was just a UKARA issue. But as he didn't know much more, it could be something like it was too hot entering the country, in that case then there is no defence!
We'll see what happens.
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EvilMonkee
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Fucking jobsworths. This country seems to breed them. Hope it works out
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I disagree. Everyone who I have spoken to regarding this with PF and BF have been really nice people. Its just unlucky that my parcel got caught out in a random search. Just doing their jobs and the law is there for a reason!
Of course I hope everything goes through fine, but considering my luck I am sure I will have worst case scenario!
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This might be of use to any one who finds this thread in the future or who is following this,
Current rules regarding the importation of fire arms to the uk, as of july 2019, even though the filename says 2017
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/819047/Notice-to-Importers-2922-Imports-of-firearms-and-_ammunition-import-licensing-arrangements-2017.pdf
hopefully it will get sorted for you, especially if its just cos your UKARA number was worn off
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Current rules regarding the importation of fire arms to the uk, as of july 2019, even though the filename says 2017
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/819047/Notice-to-Importers-2922-Imports-of-firearms-and-_ammunition-import-licensing-arrangements-2017.pdf
hopefully it will get sorted for you, especially if its just cos your UKARA number was worn off
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EvilMonkee
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Ok maybe a tad harsh but incompetents at best who don't know the law they are meant to be enforcing
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Thanks, although that causes my Pedantry Gland to engorge as it only implies, but doesn't explicitly say, that they'll consider an S37 defence as though it were a licence to import.
This is perhaps significant as previous Border Force guidelines did say that.
Border Force could seize and destroy every RIF coming into the country, irrespective of whether or not a defence is in place, because unlike with real firearms, there is no licence that I'm aware of that allows importing RIFs. And they could start doing that any time that they felt like it.
I mention all this in order to stress how important is that we not put thoughts like that in their head, or get huffy or start asserting our rights (which we don't have). We need to keep them sweet on this, with a please and a thank you, sir.
I'm sure @Asomodai will do exactly that, he's a much more polite and patient chap than I am.
This is aimed at anyone stumbling into this thread in future.
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The BF guy on the phone actually said he just came back from training for firearms importation yesterday and that there was a big section on Airsoft in it. It's just he is not sure what his manager said about my particular case.
Of course this wont help if the gun was sent to me firing hot.
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I agree with the rest of your post but I wouldn't be too concerned by that in and of itself - this was issued by DIT and is written for an audience of importers.
Whereas BF guidance is/was IIRC for BF staff.
In this instance i think they demonstrate the idea of defences (distinct from license or exemption bla bla) with something a layman would get - historical reeanctment.
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Maybe they cocked up & sent you a real one by mistake ? ?
Thar would be awkward ?
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Asomodai
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Rang up today to speak to the officer dealing with my case, as suspected he wasn't in. But the person I spoke to asked if it was to do with a "Firearm". I said yes, and he said he was discussing it with the guy and others yesterday. But he couldn't give me anymore information and to ring when the officer was in on Monday.
Described as "Firearm" has got me worried.
Described as "Firearm" has got me worried.
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Yeah I assumed he just didn't have the word airsoft in his mind at the time. But I agree I shouldn't have said yes!
The fact they were discussing in the first place makes me think its something more then just an issue with a simple UKARA number.
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