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RIFs on a Plane

two way communication versions such as Prestel were used for some industries and dated back to the early 80s


Bank of Scotchland were doing internet banking on it before there was an internet.  I shudder to think what security it didn't  have back then.  5p a minute (that could buy a Caramac bar!) daytime rates, on top of BT call charges, I'm surprised it ever got to 90,000 subscribers.

 
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Just as an update if anyone is interested, I phoned JAL last week to inquire about imports - as I'm on a two part ticket with ITM->HND with JAL and then HND->LHR with BA.

BA said check with JAL as they are the check in agents, JAL said "i dunno". So they asked for details via email and spec sheets of what I would be getting, so sent them links to a NGRS MP5 and AKM GBB as examples.

So now its back over to them to get back in contact in a couple days. If its a no-go, it will be a case of weighing up buying and posting vs buying in the UK without the faff factor.

EDIT: JAL phoned back, confirming it's all good. They even put a note on my file saying that i may need special check in. If I don't buy anything, let them know.

The only issue is them saying that I should re-check in with BA in HND. So i spoke to BA via live chat and again, they just shrugged and went "S'aight, just check in with JAL". I saved that chat, so hopefully it should be smooth sailing apart from the wife moaning, asking "Don't you already have that one?"

 
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JAL UK must have been forced to use emails because Faxes are rarer here LOL.  I'm guessing that is JAL check your bags in, it's down to you and UK authorities after that as the bags are effectively sealed at check in.

Sounds like you should be OK.

We've just booked our tickets for the next trip - Christmas again for me, the boy is moving permanently some time in August.   Poor lad wanted to go to the two day festival at the end of August, but I think he will be packed off sooner - guess I'll have to keep his RIFs well exercised in the interim :D.

 
So for further reading on this if anyone is interested (long post incoming)

Went to Repmart in Akihabara, opposite Echigoya - lovely shop and one thing that is different is that this one has a lot of space, it doesn't feel like a carboot sale.

They had an in store special on the SD6 which was too tempting not to at £350ish. Also picked up a decent armourer's wrench whilst I was in there.

Then moved to Kyoto, and popped into Gun Shop Gurka in Osaka who deal with 2nd hand stuff. TM MK46 marked as B grade, this thing looked as good as new, bar some light scratches on the stock, and no outer box. Bargain at around £500.

Also in another shop down the road, elusive TM MP5 mags at £20 each, so picked up 4 of them, before the wife screamed at me.

So this is when it gets interesting.

My flights were ITM-HND with JAL, then HND-LHR with BA, all on the same ticket but handled by the respective airlines. I had spoken to BA ahead of time and they said if JAL check it in at ITM, then all gravy.

I had this confirmed in an live chat and had the print outs. I also phoned JAL in the UK ahead of time, and was told to email them the fact sheets and my flight details. They got back to me and said all good, they will put a marker on my ticket to have it inspected before being checked in.

In preparation, I bought 2 large cardboard boxes and taped them together into one long one (still within airline limits) and bubble wrapped it all inside.

Got to itami, checked in the suitcases no problem. Inspected the guns and a police officer walks over, gives it a quick look and a thumbs up. This is going too good... Then JAL bring out 2 huge metal flight cases. They want to ship the rifs in their special weapon cases. Ok not a deal breaker, I can just grab them at LHR. No dice, they are for domestic flights only, meaning I would need to pick it up at HND and re-check it in. Urghhhhhh.

So I ask "how do i get these back to London once they are out of the metal cases?" They then check in the empty 6ft cardboard box as well.

Get to HND, pick up cases and box, transfer them back to cardboard box an then lug it across to the international terminal to check back it.

Approach the desk where it's Japanese BA staff. Explain to them what has transpired and hand over the spec sheets of the 2 which i had printed out in advance. The nice lady nods, then talks to an older gentleman who looks at he spec sheet - says something in Japanese but i pick out the words Marui, and Airsoft. So they take me over to oversized baggage, and run it through an xray, no need to unbox this time. Nervous wait and then a thumbs up. I break out the roll of gaffer tape and seal down all the openings 3 times over.

Get to LHR, box pops out, border patrol/HMRC are all on strike and i walk through the green channel with no issues and from touchdown on the tarmac to my driveway in 90 minutes. 

Overall if I were to do it again, i would by a softcase/hard case and bung them in that if it weren't a mk46.

 
Interesting post. Thanks for the update, and confirmation that my experience wasn't a one off... Barring the fax machine. 

Which one could put down to me not giving enough notice before the flights. 

I'm back over at Christmas, so might have another butchers at the akihabara shops. ??

 
So for further reading on this if anyone is interested (long post incoming)

Went to Repmart in Akihabara, opposite Echigoya - lovely shop and one thing that is different is that this one has a lot of space, it doesn't feel like a carboot sale.

They had an in store special on the SD6 which was too tempting not to at £350ish. Also picked up a decent armourer's wrench whilst I was in there.

Then moved to Kyoto, and popped into Gun Shop Gurka in Osaka who deal with 2nd hand stuff. TM MK46 marked as B grade, this thing looked as good as new, bar some light scratches on the stock, and no outer box. Bargain at around £500.

Also in another shop down the road, elusive TM MP5 mags at £20 each, so picked up 4 of them, before the wife screamed at me.

So this is when it gets interesting.

My flights were ITM-HND with JAL, then HND-LHR with BA, all on the same ticket but handled by the respective airlines. I had spoken to BA ahead of time and they said if JAL check it in at ITM, then all gravy.

I had this confirmed in an live chat and had the print outs. I also phoned JAL in the UK ahead of time, and was told to email them the fact sheets and my flight details. They got back to me and said all good, they will put a marker on my ticket to have it inspected before being checked in.

In preparation, I bought 2 large cardboard boxes and taped them together into one long one (still within airline limits) and bubble wrapped it all inside.

Got to itami, checked in the suitcases no problem. Inspected the guns and a police officer walks over, gives it a quick look and a thumbs up. This is going too good... Then JAL bring out 2 huge metal flight cases. They want to ship the rifs in their special weapon cases. Ok not a deal breaker, I can just grab them at LHR. No dice, they are for domestic flights only, meaning I would need to pick it up at HND and re-check it in. Urghhhhhh.

So I ask "how do i get these back to London once they are out of the metal cases?" They then check in the empty 6ft cardboard box as well.

Get to HND, pick up cases and box, transfer them back to cardboard box an then lug it across to the international terminal to check back it.

Approach the desk where it's Japanese BA staff. Explain to them what has transpired and hand over the spec sheets of the 2 which i had printed out in advance. The nice lady nods, then talks to an older gentleman who looks at he spec sheet - says something in Japanese but i pick out the words Marui, and Airsoft. So they take me over to oversized baggage, and run it through an xray, no need to unbox this time. Nervous wait and then a thumbs up. I break out the roll of gaffer tape and seal down all the openings 3 times over.

Get to LHR, box pops out, border patrol/HMRC are all on strike and i walk through the green channel with no issues and from touchdown on the tarmac to my driveway in 90 minutes. 

Overall if I were to do it again, i would by a softcase/hard case and bung them in that if it weren't a mk46.
Award yourself a biscuit (a fancy one) for taking the effort to update us

Great result 

 
And picture tax 

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Interesting post. Thanks for the update, and confirmation that my experience wasn't a one off... Barring the fax machine. 

Which one could put down to me not giving enough notice before the flights. 

I'm back over at Christmas, so might have another butchers at the akihabara shops. ??
Rep mart is great - cheaper than most and like I said, a really nice shop with plenty of space to look. They even have custom carrier bags that fit the boxes in nicely.

also if you’re in Osaka, SFBU had some great gear in, and lots of new goodies like the Carl Gustav launcher, and the new scar compact thing.

 
I am off to Japan in a few weeks and will have a few days in Osaka.

I am planning on buying a load of swanky fishing gear when I am over there, as they love fishing over there. However, my hotel in Osaka looks to be a 10 min walk from Gurkha and a few other shops so I will take a look when there. I doubt I will be buying any rifs, but I might try and pick up something Japanesey to show off when I get back home.

 
Welcome back!  The boy is going out for good in 3 weeks ?.

Mind you with the exchange rate the way it is - that SCAR is looking tempting.  How much was that bottom G36 ?

 
I cant remember off the top of my head, but it did look nice.

That was in a random hobbby shop in Osaka, they had a very long wall full of guns and racks and racks of upgrade parts.

The exchange rate is very good at the moment and you could pick a bargin, especially if you get it tax free. I got a load of good quality fishing gear and saved myself a few quid.

 
The exchange rate is very good at the moment


Yeah - I have an account with Wise, and they have the facility to auto convert at certain exchange rates.  I'm wondering how much and what level is worth a punt seeing as I have to buy a load of furniture soon.  SWMBO has declared we need a new sofa, and a new internet connection because the one we have can't support a decent video call.

FFS - my life is one constant financial drain on multiple sides.  Thank the maker I can go and shoot people tomorrow for therapy ?

 
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