RiF UKARA -- Ruining my enjoyment

[ImTriggerHappy]

I have deleted my "idiotic"/"moronic" posts....

didn't realize the entire hobby of airsoft could be jeopardized by one forum post....

insulting other forum members is also against forum rules... i thought you hubards never broke any rules in your entire life? oh dear :/

One post won't but the consequences of one bad piece of advice might.
You insulted yourself with that post we just gave you an honest description of your actions.

Yeah we have probably all broken rules but are not daft enough to post it on the internet. You do realise he was offering to pay people over the odds to supply him a rif. No matter how you look at it thats soliciting someone to commit a crime and thats on this forum for the whole world to see.

 

[Sacarathe]

Custom 2 tones is a bit of a mine field. The M4 Asimov pictured above wouldn't be classed as a 2 tone as white isn't one of the designated colours. The red Specna is fine. There is also the problem that some camos, even if done in the correct colours still would be appropriate as the colour has to be in block form (so I've been told recently as I was looking into hydro dipped 2 tones). Prickly subject as always however some folk would rather own a two tone than hire a gun each game day.

I'm glad to hear this from you, as I had been itching to point this out to you for a long while, but I didn't give you the fairest shake when you arrived - but now someone's put you in your place (I know nothing about that), it's good to address to as an equal at last.

And good to hear you talk about this, I imagine now you're making a business of it you're consulting a lawyer to get this opinion? I would hope the yellow gun above is two-tone, though I can see how the red one might not be "bright red" or might not be a solid enough block of red.

Though to be fair, MANY airsoft retailers don't use "bright" colours, ie lime green, neon purple, cyan, yellow, etc.

Can you give us some examples of your custom two-tones which have been approved - or you believe to be approved?

 

[d_dan]

I'm going to chime in here with a question for you guys (I don't want to respond to the other thread)

But the two tone discussion is interesting to me as in Ireland we have no limitations like this.

First off OP based on your second thread.... Please don't buy a 2 tone Krytac that just sounds so wrong.

For the rest of you my question is around the import or equipment. I've bought quite a bit of gear from the UK and we have a 1 joule limit. So I downgrade as it arrives of required .

Where do you guys stand on buying a RIF in say southern Ireland is it buyers responsibility to then have it sprayed?

If you are over 18 are you okay to have RIF or do you need to be registered still.

Finally is it policed with someone checking if you're a member when playing or is it just at point of sale?

 

[Sacarathe]

Where do you guys stand on buying a RIF in say southern Ireland is it buyers responsibility to then have it sprayed?

If you are over 18 are you okay to have RIF or do you need to be registered still.

Finally is it policed with someone checking if you're a member when playing or is it just at point of sale?

1. The UK customer would be "importing", so yes. If you refer to buying and keeping in ROI - I'm sorry to have to break it to you but Ireland is a completely different country.

2. You don't need to be registered with anyone in the United Kingdom to 'have' a realistic imitation firearm nor do you need to be over 18 - this goes for IFs too.

3. Just point of sale or import, and then for adults only, though any airsofter can make an IF into a RIF with the airsoft defence. And, there are other defences besides the airsoft defence.

 

[d_dan]

1. The UK customer would be "importing", so yes. If you refer to buying and keeping in ROI - I'm sorry to have to break it to you but Ireland is a completely different country.

Thanks for pointing out that ROI is interdependent to the UK for a it appears I have been confused for the past 28 years

What I mean is if someone in the UK buys a RIF in Ireland does it need to be sprayed before coming in to the UK or can you get it and then you mush get it sprayed.

 

[Sacarathe]

Thanks for pointing out that ROI is interdependent to the UK for a it appears I have been confused for the past 28 years

What I mean is if someone in the UK buys a RIF in Ireland does it need to be sprayed before coming in to the UK or can you get it and then you mush get it sprayed.

All I meant was this is a UK forum, with most knowledge about the UK.

As far as I know when it comes to importing airsoft guns IF/RIF are treated the same.

Don't mean to be rude , take your pick of threads on and with answers to this very question.

 

[ik0uuu]

Long story short, real father from the forces has agreed to play with me until he gets UKARAd even though it's awkward for me to get across the country to him to play - he's going to buy the rifle in black and give it to me once he's registered.

/thread

 

[Sacarathe]

Long story short, real father from the forces has agreed to play with me until he gets UKARAd even though it's awkward for me to get across the country to him to play - he's going to buy the rifle in black and give it to me once he's registered.

/thread

3 months later:

"Sorry Son, I like airsoft too much, I'm keeping your my Black gun but here's the two-tone I bought when I started out."

 

[ik0uuu]

Not going to happen, I assure you Sacarathe XD

 

[proffrink]

That's a good dad you've got right there.

 

[mp5a4]

Law is a bit stupid, as I see it, what stops you being gifted an IF from a parent, then playing airsoft and keeping a record that you have been and then converting it to a RIF?

Your defence is that you play airsoft and there is nothing in the VCRA that says an under `8 cannot convert their gun, only purchase is regulated.

 

[sp00n]

Your defence is that you play airsoft and there is nothing in the VCRA that says an under `8 cannot convert their gun, only purchase is regulated.

No, it states you cannot manufacture a RIF with out a defence. Converting an IF to a RIF is classed as manufacturing.

Also it's the sale (or seller) that's legally (well covered by the VCRA) regulated.

 

[Sacarathe]

No, it states you cannot manufacture a RIF with out a defence. Converting an IF to a RIF is classed as manufacturing.

Also it's the sale (or seller) that's legally (well covered by the VCRA) regulated.

But you can have the Airsoft defence without having UKARA(which is 18 only for obvious reasons).

 

[GearTech]

I'm glad to hear this from you, as I had been itching to point this out to you for a long while, but I didn't give you the fairest shake when you arrived - but now someone's put you in your place (I know nothing about that), it's good to address to as an equal at last.

And good to hear you talk about this, I imagine now you're making a business of it you're consulting a lawyer to get this opinion? I would hope the yellow gun above is two-tone, though I can see how the red one might not be "bright red" or might not be a solid enough block of red.

Though to be fair, MANY airsoft retailers don't use "bright" colours, ie lime green, neon purple, cyan, yellow, etc.

Can you give us some examples of your custom two-tones which have been approved - or you believe to be approved?

I haven't any examples to be honest. I get plenty of enquiries but generally have to tell people that their desired finish wouldn't be classed as a 2 tone. In the end they go with a regular 2 tone but if it's done right and with certain colours it can still look ok. As to the red on the Mandalorian M4 not being dright enough that might be down to the photos. You couldn't really get any "redder".

Latest 2 tone that I sent out last week was bright purple.

 

[ik0uuu]

Update - After seeing me airsofting yesterday at my local site, my stepdad who was against returning to the sport has finally given in! He's making a return and is purchasing rifles accordingly & getting his UKARA registration in order!

 

[Aengus]

I wish I had parents as willing to get involved in airsoft as the ones on these forums <_<

 

[AndyGif290368]

Update - After seeing me airsofting yesterday at my local site, my stepdad who was against returning to the sport has finally given in! He's making a return and is purchasing rifles accordingly & getting his UKARA registration in order!

Hmm, been airsoft 2 years have you? Wait till I tell your mother!I didn't want to come back as it's an addictive hobby, plus Its been probably 12yrs since I last ran out on the skirmish field at spectre war games.

I sold all my airsoft gear to fund a model railway, now I'm selling the remains of the railway to start airsoft in again.

GAH, I must be mad doing this again at my age, and fitness levels. Better make sure the boys not in the will!

 

[Tamberlin]

Just get a G&G Combat Machine. If paintball can make me feel euphoric, then surely handling something that feels like a real firearm and works similarly is fun...?

 

[Seany.exe]

Not going to happen, I assure you Sacarathe XD

This is a shame, I know you're just a kid and eager to play but you come across as a pretentious CoD kid that only cares about appearances. you ask for others opinions, get told cold hard facts and look to try breaking the law to get around this. You're nothing more than an arsehole and I fully back anyone that you consider was being "rude" to you.

I'm out, please stop polluting our forums.

 

[AndyGif290368]

Yes. Drew quite often comes off as being rude, very rude or even obnoxious. It's not entirely his own fault, he is very high functioning autistic. Everything in his world needs to be perfect, if a gun is supposed to be black, then it has to be black. A two tone weapon is just wrong in his eyes and there is nothing you or I can do to convince him otherwise. Let's not get him started on uniform or gun stats or you'll never shut him up.