Real knives, folded for knife kills???

Adolf Hamster said:
The impact is the one that scares me, supposedly for firing into a room to detonate on the opposite wall, but it feels like a wrong place wrong time catastrophe waiting to happen, its instantaneous and i dread to think what it could do to someone with just glasses and no half mask.

However timed i dont have a problem with especially if as you say the impact force isnt that high (more distance will certainly help that).

I think the most valuable one is the smokes though, although maybe just because i have a terrible throwing arm.

Of course all that is predicated on the assumption the user is being sensible.
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Ive lobbed timed ones into rooms on the other side of the road from the the fob at longmoor and worked fine and also had no issues.

the bang is fairly loud but having sat next to the blank firing mortar at a legion game and various other pyrotechnics over the years as well as working in a music venue most of my teenage years/early 20s my ears are shot to shit anyway ?

I thought the smokes were absolute shit!! My go to rounds are the 3/4 second delay ones and that’s all I use 

Immortal said:
Pea grenades, they're brilliant fun to chuck about (sorry derailing.... done it anyway :D )

Back to shanking...
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My go to are thermos - love the thud, flash and puff of smoke ???

 
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Direct hits from impact tags DO NOT HURT, it's a shock for sure, but the 'charge' inside is tiny and the projectile itself weighs bugger all.  I've been hit directly a number of times, and I'd take a TAG to the chest over a BB to the inner thigh any day of the week.  

Likewise, if you're wearing just glasses in a game in which TAG rounds are available that is YOUR risk to take, full face is always available to everyone.  

 


tl;dw - summary:

"Nobody said nothing about not using real knives for knife kills at the time, so nobody can say nothing about it now.

Yeah I was told not to put pyro at or near vehicles.  I was told it twice.  And I didn't throw pyro AT a vehicle.  I threw it at people who were standing right BEHIND a vehicle.  I did it twice.  How could I know that pyro aimed right behind a vehicle could hit that vehicle?  Nobody could know that.  It's not my fault.  It's not my fault the driver thought it was safe to have the window open just because everyone was told not to put pyro near the vehicles, twice. It's not my fault they thought it was safe to have gear in the vehicle just because everyone was told not to put pyro near the vehicles, twice.  Nothing's my fault.  It just is what it is." 

And then the usual logical fallacy about how the things he didn't see happening didn't happen because the things he did he see happening didn't happen the same way as the things that he didn't see happening.

Having seen that, uh, defence[*]of what happened, I'm even more glad that I wasn't there.

[*]Or viewed another way, an admission of informed culpability.

 
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I watched it & thought the same, their behind hard cover that can't be targeted with pyro, just move on ffs, its just a ducking game, but oh no, this dicks such a hard core "operator" that he's got to complete the "mission", even if it means breaking the clearly defined rules.

Ironically this attitude & behaviour is what's spoiling airsoft, dicks like this who quite literally believe the lines between airsoft & real life have become blurred, they genuinely believe they are akin to "operators", forgetting that its a game with rules for a reason, on the airsoft field we're all just civilians playing at it, irrespective of whether our day jobs are related in any way to the services, or more likely to be mundane run of the mill jobs.

Funnily enough the O in SEO actually stands for Operators, I rest my case?

 
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jcheeseright said:
Direct hits from impact tags DO NOT HURT, it's a shock for sure, but the 'charge' inside is tiny and the projectile itself weighs bugger all.  I've been hit directly a number of times, and I'd take a TAG to the chest over a BB to the inner thigh any day of the week.  

Likewise, if you're wearing just glasses in a game in which TAG rounds are available that is YOUR risk to take, full face is always available to everyone.  
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Less than one gram if I remember rightly 

 
E21A said:
Less than one gram if I remember rightly 
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1g is more than twice as much as a 9mm round, so it's not a measurement worth comparison.

i've seen them go off in close proximity, and i wouldn't like it to be any closer than that.

this is one of the fundamental problems of airsoft, we all draw our lines in different places, if an impact tag went off beside me i'd call it and move on, if a timed one hit me from distance and went off at my feet i'd also just dander off to spawn, but if one exploded on my face then it'd be a different story.

 
Where do we draw the line on this...

players on the day say say they were dead and waiting on their bleed out, Bailey says they were dead men talking about where he is and also the objectives...

not the the first time he’s been accused of things like this but to post proof and then say the guy deserved it is a bit mental


 
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I saw this on face book and I got to say the comments I read were incredibly shity. Ok. He's done something wrong but why shoot him in the face? Shoot him in the arm or upper thigh what ever. As for the SEO game, where were the marshalls or have I missed something?

 
Kicking moron is right up there on the Airsoft wankers list. If he’d have shot him on the body I’d have let it slide, but it’s not his job to deal out his own brand of ‘justice’ to stop someone allegedly cheating. He’s very lucky he didn’t do that to somebody who took more of an acception to it. 

 
Adolf Hamster said:
1g is more than twice as much as a 9mm round, so it's not a measurement worth comparison.

i've seen them go off in close proximity, and i wouldn't like it to be any closer than that.
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No it isn't, the powder in a bullet is a lot more powerful than the low grade firework snap in a tag round. 

I HAVE been hit by an impact TAG, it's less painful than being hit by a BB. The round itself is huge and weighs next to nothing, the charge that makes it go bang is tiny. 

*** Edited for my bad maths 

 
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Just watched the vid of the guy being shot in the face, as old as I am, if that guy did that to me, he would be wearing his gun as an anal probe!

 
clumpyedge said:
but to post proof and then say the guy deserved it is a bit mental
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Only if there are negative consequences for him.  As it stands, it's just more grist to his persona mill.

Until some of these 'celebs' are banned from sites, publicly and loudly, there is no downside to them escalating their antics.

 
KM likes to humiliate and deliver his own punishment to cheating players. It's ironic as KM cheats too...

A: He runs out of bounds to get to spots you couldn't get to if you followed the site rules.

B: He frequently ignores the MED or has no idea how to judge it (most likely the former).

C: He cuts all the footage that shows him getting gangbanged to keep the impression of an untouchable invisible ninja compost.

D: And a very low point: Spawn Killing. I mean what's the point. That ruins it for both teams simultaneously ontop of unsporting behavior.

It's a shame really as he does have skills and they are over shadowed by his negative style of play.

 
Rogerborg said:
Only if there are negative consequences for him.  As it stands, it's just more grist to his persona mill.

Until some of these 'celebs' are banned from sites, publicly and loudly, there is no downside to them escalating their antics.
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Immortal said:
KM likes to humiliate and deliver his own punishment to cheating players. It's ironic as KM cheats too...

A: He runs out of bounds to get to spots you couldn't get to if you followed the site rules.

B: He frequently ignores the MED or has no idea how to judge it (most likely the former).

? He cuts all the footage that shows him getting gangbanged to keep the impression of an untouchable invisible ninja compost.

? And a very low point: Spawn Killing. I mean what's the point. That ruins it for both teams simultaneously ontop of unsporting behavior.

It's a shame really as he does have skills and they are over shadowed by his negative style of play.
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I doubt many places will ban him, have heard a few have but one or two I have gone to are so far up his arse they wouldn't want to ban him as his videos give their sites free advertisement.

I've had issues with him in the past and so have a fair few people that I play with or know through those people as well. I cant see how people are actually defending this type of action no matter what led him to do it (from the comments on the video and the UKAC page) even the guy that got shot chimed in on his version of events. How many times do you see dead players after standing for a while with their hands in the air lower them.... pretty much all the time from what I see. for KM to state he had already shot him once, he knew he was dead yet decided to take it upon himself to shoot him again.

Guy seems like a psychopath by all accounts and various other videos hes put up.

 
Immortal said:
I think it's more sadistic than psychopathic.
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Lol, I think there's a bit of sadism in all of us, otherwise we'd be playing lasertag?.

I don't like KM, don't know him, never met him, but if even a little bit of the stuff that's been written about him is true then he's just a cheating twat, who ego is fuelled by all the sheep who follow him on YouTube etc, BUT I don't disagree with a dead player who won't shut up being shot again, even if it was in the neck/head (which by the way was a good shot given how windy it was there), dead men don't talk, or give directions, full stop.

 
Agree with all of the above, but if you actually meet him, and speak to him, he’s a pussy. Shy, reserved, polite. He gets on the field and he’s a raging ass hole. Played with him a few times, as I know a few others here have, and while I haven’t seen him cheat, I know he does in more ways than are mentioned above. 

My team and I will obliterate him if he’s at the same field as us, he knows this, and has never turned up to a site he knows we play at(he has a team mate of mine on FB).

The best way to beat this type of player is to out play him. And we have that down to a tee.

 
jcheeseright said:
No it isn't, a 9mm round (dependent upon bullet weight) contains between 3.5 and 4.7g of powder.  That powder is also a lot more powerful than the low grade firework snap than in a tag round. 

I HAVE been hit by an impact TAG, it's less painful than being hit by a BB. The round itself is huge and weighs next to nothing, the charge that makes it go bang is tiny. 
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sure we're not getting grams and grains confused here, the source i found had 0.39g as a loading figure for 9*19 .

 
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