Quality airsoft pistol

Defender90 said:
The EF/Umarex/VFC Glocks do sound interesting and I do want to try one.

But I'll be amazed if they're as good as my KWA/Umarex H&K 45: reaches out to 40 yards ish+ on .25s right out of the box and has metal slide so it can take powerful gas without breaking. Unlike TMs.

And it costs under £200, albeit not much, and the mags are the better part of £50.
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Ran my TM HK45 on nuprol 4.0 no problems when I had it and my M&P works fine on it.

The newer TMs are ok on the stronger gases. 

 
For green gas I'm gonna echo what everyone else says - TM 4 life

For CO2 I adore my Cybergun/KWC M1911A1.

It is reliable (weather, temp, mud - still works), durable (I drop it alot), accurate (1.5 inch groupings), longer range than I expected.

It is also cheap - I got the special 100 anniversary edition M1911A1 for £100

Only draw back is it has is that the mags are quite small - they say 17 bbs but anymore than 10 and you risk feeding issues.

 
Game Cam said:
For green gas I'm gonna echo what everyone else says - TM 4 life

For CO2 I adore my Cybergun/KWC M1911A1.

It is reliable (weather, temp, mud - still works), durable (I drop it alot), accurate (1.5 inch groupings), longer range than I expected.

It is also cheap - I got the special 100 anniversary edition M1911A1 for £100

Only draw back is it has is that the mags are quite small - they say 17 bbs but anymore than 10 and you risk feeding issues.
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funny that as it's the one pistol i absolutely wouldn't reccommend, maybe i've got a bad one but fps is terrible, accuracy is non existent and the mags have this fun habit of pretending they're not leaking just long enough to lull you into a false sense of security.

 
kwc makes the pistol, cybergun brands it and puts the trades on.

like my "cybergun" f2000 which is a g&g with fn herstal trades on it as cybergun owns the rights to those trademarks.

 
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I'd go either KWA m226 or elite force glock 17/19 for an american handgun. 

 
As far as the EF Glock go's I have a new inner barrel and bucking and it shoots really tight groupings, I have been able to hit a soda can at 150 ft every shot. so far no issues with the gun and I have put probably just shy of 10,000 rounds through it. 

 
That's definitely impressive, I'm going to try to get to shoot an Elite Force Glock sometime soon. Then I'll see...

 
I assume by EF we're talking VFC.

In which case it is now sold only by Umarex.

What put me off this, beside the price, was the VFC hop up which I am told is proprietary.

 
cybergun one will have Glock markings not KWC ones

 
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