NYLON combat Raiders vs metal

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Hi.

ive been looking at G and Gs CQB guns. Really like the look of em. im defo going to buy one i just have the conundrum of metal vs nylon. the new CM 300 bot really takes my fancy however i really like the look of the G and G tr4 cqb r (gen 3) which is full metal. i realize they are totally different price ranges but i have the money to get either. its just if the extra £100 is worth it for the metal and a few upgrades.

thanks JD :D

 
sorry named the thread wrong should have been metal G and G CQB vs nylon

 
Don't forget weight, lugging round a metal gun all day can become tiring.

I can say this, the plastic bodied are great, as long as your not swinging from it or standing on it etc

 
TBH unless you really really want it, the metal bodied version will be no better- a lot of metals used in airsoft replicas are pants unless you spend loads more on higher quality brands.

 
avoid G&G BOT - no I ain't got one and probably won't

reason their fet's haven't got the best reputation and much better ones out there from £10 or build ya own for £5

(plus their new FireHawk HC05 was crap so I don't think much of G&G's R&D dept lately)

the GC16 30th offers the best value for must have metal peeps £150 airsoftworld.net

short raider/firehawk are short - well yeah but being short they are not likely to bust unless you start using them as hammer/crowbar etc...

other makes of plastic guns are very brittle but the abs or polymer or whatever it is used in the CM's stands up very very well

if you have £150 to spend then either GC16 30th if you must have metal

or

CM18 - abs/polymer/plastic but sexy darling of a gun - crap mid cap - leave that in box coz G&G mid caps are not great like some of their fitted mosfets

or £123 - short raider will do perfectly also

people always think metal is a must - but numerous guns are polymer eg: G36, UAR, ST, ARX - sure there are loads of modern looking guns out there

for cqb - short raider - 233 barrel, firehawk 110, cm18 or gc16 - 275 barrel

(think that is correct aprox but don't sue me if I'm a tad out)

though it don't matter that much but just saying shorter guns could be better suited for tight turns/corridors than a longer mofo

but cqb most crap is under 50ft for example

 
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The polymer ones are fine, I reckon the internals will be practically the same.

As Tac said the metal receivers aren't great and generally pot metal (in fact will break much more easily -than the plastic ones- apparently)

 
ah ok cheers for the advice. is there any other brands / guns for cqb i should look at. budgets is £200.

 
ive heard alot of good stuff about kwas m4s but there hard to find with a ris system on em in the uk

 
KWA are more popular in the US because of different FPS restrictions, they're generally not as good as G&G's AEGs. ICS are another brand you could look at, and if you can stretch your budget there's some cheaper G&P M4s- G&P stuff is usually really nice externally and average internally, a bit like the opposite of G&G

 
The good thing about G&G's is that you have a few good model/styles options for quite a reasonable price

so you got change for batteries/charger/mags/eye pro etc....

ICS are nice and they start at around same price as G&G's at fire support but stuff in the £150 mark are very much the same

just with long/short barrel or different stocks, think you gotta pay a little more to get the £200 mark with some nicer models

I got a ICS 42W 2 -tone/clear - well a few and they are nice but most of those in that range were the same style like I said

nice gun all the same, reckon a little quicker rof than G&G out of box, clever AR release etc....

But I just like the G&G starter (£120-£160) range of guns, a few choices what floats ya boat but effectively all the same inside

just a CM carbine with tarted up front ends really - but all the same good robust build that work well and a dream to work on

As for other makes/brands - well depends on your site....

if you was playing only cqb and close cqb then it could be semi only - pistols mp5k ????

if you was playing a mixture semi/auto cqb then stubby M4 - FireHawk/Short Raider or AK74 or G36

if you was looking to say also try out mid range woodland then maybe add on slightly longer GC16 CM18 or 300+ barrels

(it don't mean or guarantee better range but if you got room out there then no point just using a smaller gun/pistol on larger areas)

You can use anything really but perhaps go for 229-300 size guns for a general all rounder gun - well just my opinion

 
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Sitting Duck said:
The good thing about G&G's is that you have a few good model/styles options for quite a reasonable price

so you got change for batteries/charger/mags/eye pro etc....

ICS are nice and they start at around same price as G&G's at fire support but stuff in the £150 mark are very much the same

just with long/short barrel or different stocks, think you gotta pay a little more to get the £200 mark with some nicer models

I got a ICS 42W 2 -tone/clear - well a few and they are nice but most of those in that range were the same style like I said

nice gun all the same, reckon a little quicker rof than G&G out of box, clever AR release etc....

But I just like the G&G starter (£120-£160) range of guns, a few choices what floats ya boat but effectively all the same inside

just a CM carbine with tarted up front ends really - but all the same good robust build that work well and a dream to work on

As for other makes/brands - well depends on your site....

if you was playing only cqb and close cqb then it could be semi only - pistols mp5k ????

if you was playing a mixture semi/auto cqb then stubby M4 - FireHawk/Short Raider or AK74 or G36

if you was looking to say also try out mid range woodland then maybe add on slightly longer GC16 CM18 or 300+ barrels

(it don't mean or guarantee better range but if you got room out there then no point just using a smaller gun/pistol on larger areas)

You can use anything really but perhaps go for 229-300 size guns for a general all rounder gun - well just my opinion

cheers for the advice.
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ok yea cheers for the advice. think im going for the cm 18 looks a very good looking gun which fits my needs to a - T. also wanna get in to a bit of teching and if CMs are nice to work on then its perfect. it comes with a mid cap tho and want a hi cap really so what m4 hi caps would you suggest. Also what sites do you use im just over the border in Berks so not far from you!

 
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but hers my thoughts if i wanted a gun that was modifyable to chage between cqb and mid range battle its easier to lengthen a gun using a suppressor or barrel extension and a new longer inner barrel over shortening a longer barrel. am i correct in saying this.

 
Barrel length dosn't effect range ;)

Range is dictated by the hop etc

 
sp00n said:
Barrel length dosn't effect range ;)

Range is dictated by the hop etc
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yea i know its the internals but if i waned to alter a barrel length it would be easier to go from stock short barrel to a longer one than from a stock long barrel to a shorter one.

 
i recently priced up a complete firehawk top end to go on my CM16 raider ..... i bought a firehawk ... it was cheaper ... and such a good gun i am keeping it as is.

to go from say the raider L to the normal raider, the bare minimum you need is the inner barrel, and the outer end piece.

 
sp00n said:
i recently priced up a complete firehawk top end to go on my CM16 raider ..... i bought a firehawk ... it was cheaper ... and such a good gun i am keeping it as is.

to go from say the raider L to the normal raider, the bare minimum you need is the inner barrel, and the outer end piece.
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ok cool. what are your thoughts on king arms

 
I had a firehawk and it was a cracking little gun and its still going strong for the lad who bought it from me as well

 
coz sitting duck says there not great but they are new like the firehawk

 
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