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That is because you are functional and prefer form over aesthetics. Keep it simple works. I have too much kit due to lack of willpower to not buy something online.
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New Airsofter, London, Pros/Cons Starting Airsoft with GBB Pistol
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I actually lost my 3rd mag, the one which came with the gun, at an event, personally I think it was nicked, but its not worth thinking about any more.
Actually, I only got the Plate Carrier and the UBACs because they were cheap, but both have saved me from pain. I normally have the PC bare just for protection, but i'm trying having the mags on the front instead of the battle belt BARE - incidentally i'm not going to be using the battlebelt like that, I just put it in the picture.
Normally I use plate carrier OR battlebelt with all the pouches.
I'm still finding my feet, i've also bought quite a few things that I didnt like.
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ImTriggerHappy
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Protection!
Its airSOFT you dont need protection other than on your face.
Try just wearing a T-shirt its good for you.
I always say if your not bleeding your not playing hard enough.
Its airSOFT you dont need protection other than on your face.
Try just wearing a T-shirt its good for you.
I always say if your not bleeding your not playing hard enough.
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Having seen your bleeding and scared arms, no thanks. No pain, no pain. Long sleeves for me, hard enough passing off injuries as gardening accidents at work
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I was thinking of just taking my pistol and i4 mask, and when the mag is empty filling it with any spare BBs laying around
(reminds me of a thread about reusable BB)
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I guess it partly depends on if you play at different sites. I try to avoid getting what I consider novelty guns now, which i'd class the Breacher as(so I sold it), because even in CQB some sites seem to promote massive volumes of fire which it just can't counter effectively. To me it all comes down to whether you are going to be really limited as to where you can use it to the point you put yourself at a notable disadvantage.
The biggest issue for me is if I run guns that use different magazines or use something like a MOLLE belt which completely blocks my duty belt that my holster is mounted to. To me the best solution is to have multiple loadouts as opposed to compromising on how I mount kit. The upside is I can do things like run a MOLLE belt setup which holds a spare LMG mag and is very lightweight, even with the hydration pouch attached. Downside is it costs money and takes up room
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I think its just that I like everything to be simple. I have played indoor cqb and woodland and still use the same kit. Simple belt rig or vest, unless its a 8hr long milsim then dont think you need to carry much anyway. I would never wear a lid because that just not me.Just destroyed my pistol and dont know if I will bother replacing it. I find by the time I have thought about it that its usually all over and the pistol never comes out.I guess it partly depends on if you play at different sites. I try to avoid getting what I consider novelty guns now, which i'd class the Breacher as(so I sold it), because even in CQB some sites seem to promote massive volumes of fire which it just can't counter effectively. To me it all comes down to whether you are going to be really limited as to where you can use it to the point you put yourself at a notable disadvantage.
The biggest issue for me is if I run guns that use different magazines or use something like a MOLLE belt which completely blocks my duty belt that my holster is mounted to. To me the best solution is to have multiple loadouts as opposed to compromising on how I mount kit. The upside is I can do things like run a MOLLE belt setup which holds a spare LMG mag and is very lightweight, even with the hydration pouch attached. Downside is it costs money and takes up room
Dont feel the need for lots of guns either just a main one and a back up.
I think it boils down to the fact that I like playing airsoft but have never wanted to play soldiers.
But each to their own, I sometimes think that my philosophy sets me apart from your average airsofter.
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I like to keep my loadouts simple as I just encounter issues I hadn't expected otherwise. At the Mall I'm happy with 4 mags in my trouser pockets as they fit almost as well as mag pouches. However as they don't fit as well so I'd rather use proper mag pouches anywhere it could be harder to find them if they do fall out. I will probably switch over to a chest rig at some point as it's lighter than a plate carrier and I just don't need all the MOLLE space.
Helmets look cool to me but I'm quite happy wearing a boonie and have no interest testing whether a helmet would cause issues with my eyepro, facepro or headset.
I definitely find pistols an asset if used right. I can switch to my pistol far quicker than I can reload my HK416 and i'm not exactly slow at doing that. They are also much faster when it comes to popping out from behind cover or rushing people. This seems to apply to woodland more in my experience but it absolutely works.
As far as guns go i'm trying to focus on having a good set that fulfill a different role. Using my LMG is completely different to my HK416, it's very enjoyable but also physically and financially draining as I can get through 2-3 bottles of BBs a day.
I think the playing soldiers for me is closer to the "bang bang I shot you, not you didn't!" mentality than going for recreations of specific armed forces. Either way I think it makes Airsoft all the more interesting as there's such a wide variety of players. Also comparing my LMG and HK416 I wouldn't say one is better than the other. The closest you would come is that the HK416 can be used more consistently over a number of scenarios, to me that becomes a bit boring whereas to others it means they know what they are getting 100% of the time.
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Simple answer is to come round the corner faster. I find that speed and aggression is always the best weapon no matter what scenario ( unless it a defensive one because I am sh*te at that).
I get the different guns for different roles just not the I have 12 different assault rifles and 10 of them are M4's type of thing.
As I said though each to there own if thats what makes you smile all good, its just not me.
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The thing is pistols clear corners before anything longer would and they are faster to get on target due to their size and weight(I know some people disagree for some reason, but seriously try making a gun with your index and middle finger vs faking holding a rifle and see which is faster). It's mainly an advantage when your opponent doesn't expect it. The biggest pain in the arse is figuring out what to do with your rifle though. When I don't expect to move it's all about the sling, whereas if I am rushing someone i'd rather not have the weight plus it bouncing around to get in my way. I favour slings that easily detach for this reason
It's definitely about having fun though, you find what works for you and go with it. There's players that would never use what I do and vice versa.
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I never do the pop shot thing. If I am going round a corner after someone or someones its usually the stuntman knee slide or a headlong dive. Not everyones choice but works for me.
Anyone thats played along side me usually picks up subtlety isnt my strong point.
More of a maximum carnage approach.
Anyone thats played along side me usually picks up subtlety isnt my strong point.
More of a maximum carnage approach.
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I'd just like to say that neither have I. If anyone thinks I do because I bought gear similar to what I saw others wearing would make it so, they'd be incorrrect. Admittedly I could have put in more effort to find gear that was, shall we say, less soldiery, but when it came down to it, buying the emerson stuff (camo/helmet) was just a cheap shortcut, and the flyye gear because I really really dislike the way chest rigs look (except the Vietnam/WW2 stuff).
I won't be buying mp5 mag pouches. They fit well into pockets.
I'm too new to do that, but I want to. Atm, I have just my " first gun ", the M4, and the CQB gun. I plan to buy another M4, but beyond that I have no idea currently. I'd like to get a 416 and M27 - ideally just one lower receiver (two stocks).
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Dont get huffy it was just my way of pointing out that I have no interest in the soldiery loadouts. If anyone else does its their choice and best of luck to them I respect their choice.I see airsoft more as an aggressive game of tag than a military thing so I go for purely functional is all. Just pointing out different perceptions not digging at anybody.
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I'm sorry; I didn't read it as a dig against me, I just didnt want to (or allow anyone else to) leave that impression when I put up the pictures.
When I got the plate carrier, my only thoughts were of avoiding injury, and of practicality - and sadly of fitting in, which I'm not ashamed of, at least not as a newbie.
I got some pictures of me at the game yesterday (posing ^^), I just look "airsofty" in my mind. Not soldiery
When I got the plate carrier, my only thoughts were of avoiding injury, and of practicality - and sadly of fitting in, which I'm not ashamed of, at least not as a newbie.
I got some pictures of me at the game yesterday (posing ^^), I just look "airsofty" in my mind. Not soldiery
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Having played soldiers for real, I am not interested in a realistic load-out and it does not make much difference what I wear for CQB indoors. Light and simple does work, as @ImTriggerHappy say it is all about speed, firepower, and surprise. I do wish that I was quicker and knew where I was going! That is why I have played games with pistol only (and now carry a knife) to be more agile. I do have a variety of kit so have options of what to wear/use but in the dark it is my cheap second-hand Viper vest from eBay which is actually the best with the 6 large Velcro pockets for mags, pistol suppressor, torch, spare batteries. @Esoterick, I have a 2-point sling for my HK416 with mash hooks so that I can quickly attach the front clip and spin the rifle over my shoulder so that it is tight into my back and out the way. I find just using the single clip with rifle hanging free in front is not always ideal but does allow easy transitions to other hand/shoulder. Still prefer wearing my Fast helmet more than a beanie hat, but as long as it gives some protection from knocks and head shots either is fine. Comfort and practicality is key for me; I just need to get to more games to keep learning and adapting.
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That was what I initially planned to do but as it looked like the front sling points would need a loop to run through I never bothered. I also find just having my rifle hanging can tend to cause it to get a bit frisky with my mag pouches. Thinking of getting a single point sling that will mount to the back of my plate carrier as this should both avoid mag interference and the sling cutting into my neck at times. Only thing stopping me is i'd want to be able to detach it at least as fast as my MS3 sling lets me.
Out of interest do you run a little keyring loop or something like para cord on the front sling point or do you have a sling with a narrow clip that fits without them?
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Originally I bought a two point sling with HK style clips but found that they were too small to attach to my QD ring on the butt stock and also scratched the front sling holes in the handguard. So I bought the Irene sling with the mash hooks which are larger and fit better, and also a swivel sling mount which I have fitted to the left side Ris. So no need for para cord. The Irene sling has quick detach clip so I can simply unclip it away-from my body if necessary to put the rifle on the ground, etc. My preference is a 2 point sling (years of using L85A2 rifle) as I like to have the rifle held in place on my chest or back if I am just standing around or want hands free.
