Military Shooting Experience!!

[ward1539]

Hi Guys and Girls,

I am looking for a bit of feed back to see who would be interested I have recently left the Armed Forces and looking at setting up a business to give people a military shooting experience. It would be with such weapons as mp5, H&K 416 and AR15s.

They would be real firearms and I would offer a full day or afternoon of shooting with ex military instructors some of winch are ex special forces as well. Please could you comment weather you think this would be a good idea and what sort of prices you would pay for this package. Thanks hope to hear from you all.

Si

 

[Nutster]

Good luck doing it in the UK is all I will say

 

[ward1539]

The legal side of this has already been looked at and my local constabulary have been spoken to about this plan I would like some market research before spending £10000 on guns.

 

[CaptainSwoop]

Where will you get semi auto or auto weapons in the UK?

All you can own in semi-auto is 22 rimfire.

You can't own anything in 9mm as that is classed as a pistol round and the ammo is banned.

You can own an AR but only single shot working off a manual bolt with no way of converting to semi-auto- so essentially a bolt action rifle based on an AR receiver.

You could get hold of the 'Cadet' version of the SA80. They are single shot working off a manual bolt.

 

[Undieing_Lust]

Good luck trying to do that in the UK. Northern Ireland is a bit differnt we are allow Handguns becuse of the threat level and for sporting purposes as well as CCW. I am a member of NITSA and we can get 5.56 and higher bolt action rifles but its nothing like in America. also semi and full autos are really really hard to get almost impossible.

 

[TacMaster]

You could get hold of the 'Cadet' version of the SA80. They are single shot working off a manual bolt.

An L98A1? They've all been recycled, we use a semi auto locked SA80 rifle now under designation L98A2.

 

[CaptainSwoop]

A lot of years since I saw a Cadet rifle

 

[TacMaster]

But yeah back on topic- I'd love to do some 5.56 shooting with a different weapons system, and I'd equally like to have a go with an MP5 or similar 9mm SMG- permission from local police is one thing, but importing fully automatic weapons systems into this country is entirely another. If you're planning on buying ex-army systems then fair enough; however if you're buying direct from dealers and manufacturers in the US or in Germany, you would find it difficult to get it past borders on both sides

 

[Mike636]

If you want a true military day at the range pick the wettest day of the year, get up at 6 stand in the rain for an hour waiting for someone with a key, pick up your rifle then cram yourself and 16 other blokes into a minibus and spend an hour driving to the middle of nowhere.

Now for the real fun, make sure the range has a shelter that can either fit 4 blokes in or was constructed during the reign of Henry VIII so it leaks like a fucked fridge so either way your getting wet! Spend 45 minutes zeroing your rifle, make sure you put it on top of your daysack so you know it's yours and treat yourself to a nap.

Wake up to the unit mong asking "Is this your rifle mate?" Don't worry it is and you get to spend another hour re zeroing it!

Dinner time , get your self a soggy sandwich with one slice of ham/horse/donkey and a sausage roll 1% meat and the rest sawdust disguised as pastry

Do one shoot before the range staff get bored and woooo you've all passed!

Spend 30 minutes picking up brass and get back on the minibus.

You think your days over ? Nope spend an hour cleaning your rifle with half of your cleaning kit missing/borrowed/not getting it back.

I'm not bitter , honest

 

[TacMaster]

Not forgetting the dodgy 'Tayto' crisps....made in Ulster, free C4 charge with every multipack!

 

[Mike636]

Jesus I almost forgot about those never seen them since

 

[TacMaster]

Tbh I'm glad I've never seen them outside of a horror bag/box

 

[CaptainSwoop]

Permission from the Local Police? What does that consist of?

Try getting the site licensed as a range. Then get yourself firearms certificate and then getting the variations and permissions on it for the weapons you want. Some of which seem to be prohibited weapons anyway.

Then try and get a license and insurance to let members of the public in to shoot them.

 

[Mr Monkey Nuts]

Have you considered why nobody else is doing it?

 

[Dan_W]

Try and get the cadet rifles and if possible military grade bolt action 'sniper' rifles if they are legal. People will pay money to shoot an L96 or even something firing a .338 if possible and even historic weapons like Lee-Enfields.

I'm not too sure on the rules about larger calibres but i'm sure you'll sort something legal out

 

[Dan_W]

Not forgetting the dodgy 'Tayto' crisps....made in Ulster, free C4 charge with every multipack!

I met Mr. Tayto once. Best day of my life.

 

[TacMaster]

Try and get the cadet rifles and if possible military grade bolt action 'sniper' rifles if they are legal. People will pay money to shoot an L96 or even something firing a .338 if possible and even historic weapons like Lee-Enfields.

I'm not too sure on the rules about larger calibres but i'm sure you'll sort something legal out

It's definitely legal to buy and own a military grade sniper rifle with the right license, as long as it's bolt action. Hell, it's even legal to own bolt action rifles chambered in .50bmg (like the Barrett M99 and M95) if you can afford it, although the only ranges you can fire one on are either military or up in Yorkshire.

 

[M_P]

Bisley?

 

[TacMaster]

Bisley?

Idk about anti material rifle use at Bisley. I know you can do other fullbore shooting there though

 

[M_P]

Fairly confident you can use .50cal there, I'm sure a friend who spends a lot of time there mentioned it a while back.

But yeah, @op this realistically won't work out due to the negative view on guns over here. You wouldn't have the freedom to run this as they do in the US- when I was in the states it was easier to rent a gun and buy ammo than it was to order a mega bucket at the KFC next door. I mean I had to sign a form saying I hadn't felt suicidal in the last 30 days but that was it :lol: