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Macks airsoft dreamers of the week thread

Druid799 said:
No not changing obviously you just misunderstood my point , I just took it as read that everyone was of the opinion (as are basically all the players I know) when your talking about these high figures for pistol up-grades (NOT AEG/GBBR’s) then as far I’m concerned cost/skill are just two faces of the same coin , if you want a pistol like this one then you’ve obviously got the knowledge to do it your self so you’d buy your own parts and build it your self or if you want to buy an ‘off the shelf’ you’d buy from a reputable retailer and not drop this kind of money on an unknown seller , hence can’t see it selling as is .

Including TM’s/Systemas/etc in the argument is rather pointless as there already passing that price range stock before anyone even mentions up-grades ! 
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Firstly, its a discussion not an argument and I dont particularly care about the outcome.

However, knowledge about a product and upgrades etc... doesn't mean you can do it yourself. I could reel off all the perceived best upgrades for a VSR upgrade along with tweaks for air seal etc... but that doesn't mean I have the skill to do it myself.

My main point is/was that why pick holes in the pistol just because its £550 when no one takes a second glance at a fully upgraded TM for £800 in the second hand section. You're still buying from an 'unknown buyer' hence why I said the price is irrelevant in regards to the pistol. 

My point for including the TM/Systemas in the discussion is again...people spend more than the pistol price from unknown sellers but as I said above, no1 seems to point that on on this thread. Also you can buy TMs for less than £550 new - there are only 5 rifles over £550 on the E6 website)

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All payments are made through PP so if its shit when it arrives or doesnt have quoted parts etc.. file a claim. Ther is enough threads also about buying from retailers to scare you away from dropping £10 with them. 

Again...I agree that this wont sell (or I'd be very surprised) I just don't think its quite right for this thread

 
Not so much the price though I do think its excessive.  More the gall of selling a pistol thats 50% WE parts as a TM




 
Eh, that's a minor sin, it's clearly described in substantial detail, even down to the postage and payment method.  I wish more ads were like that.

 
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Hmm, I more think of it as chancing your arm but there we go opinions etc...

 
EvilMonkee said:
Not so much the price though I do think its excessive.  More the gall of selling a pistol thats 50% WE parts as a TM
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Fair play for your opinion, but I totally disagree with it.

I had the "gall" to install the WE parts as a full TM build in the WE slide did not cycle. Further, the stress of a metal slide is likely to cause wear on many of the TM parts that simply weren't designed for it. I'd rather break the WE parts and still have spare TM parts to use. Especially considering PX4 parts are hard to come by, or you have companies charging crazy prices for small parts.

The fact that the package includes the entirety of a TM pistol negates it "being 50% of a WE". If a buyer wishes to change the internals then they can do so. It contains a TM and a WE pistol. 

As for the price, a fully functioning pistol package with 7 mags, 6 TM, and almost a second pistol is "excessive"? Maybe you should post some of the shagged WE pistols with 2 mags being listed at their retail value instead ?

Whatever floats your boat though mate, I'll still sell it with no problems  :)

 
EvilMonkee said:
Touch a nerve?
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Not at all. Your criticisms are entirely valid and I accept that. But you've oddly mistaken a rebuttal for something it just isn't. 

You're free to openly criticise my post in this thread, just as I'm allowed to reply to said criticism. I've taken what you've said (and Rogerborg) on board and reduced the price. So I do appreciate that.

There's not much else to it, if you were expecting a hissy fit then I'm afraid we're at an impasse. Hopefully the next person will prove more entertaining?

 
Oh you clearly mistake me for a troll, which I hope most of the regular membership here will attest I am not.  Glad that you have taken the points on board, and in a constructive manner. 

Though you do get minus points for running a HPA PKM - that IS heresy of the highest order :)

 
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It's no worries. As I said, I'm always open to criticisms of my sales posts. Can't get it right every time  :)  Though I figure it's always better to start high(er) on value with the expectation people will ask if you'll lower it.

I read about 10 pages back and it seems relatively light hearted in this thread so I've got a better grasp what it's for. Admittedly I'm new to this forum but I've been on Z1 since 2010, came over here on the basis that I needed a functioning non-ghost town forum to be able to sell things. 

How dare you make inflammatory statements about my glorious PKM. Though not going to lie, I've had it since 2013 when I shelled out £1000 building it brand new and I've never used it. It just looks awesome. I've tried selling it twice but I ended up conveniently forgetting to reply to people who want to buy it. In short, I'll probably still have it when I'm 80.

 
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For what it's worth Jay, I thought your advert was fine.

Well written and descriptive with good photos. Thought the price was fair for what you got too...

Leagues above the normal advert we're used to seeing on here, keep them like that and you'll be fine :)

 
L3wisD said:
For what it's worth Jay, I thought your advert was fine.

Well written and descriptive with good photos. Thought the price was fair for what you got too...

Leagues above the normal advert we're used to seeing on here, keep them like that and you'll be fine :)
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I’m with L3wisD on this as well , don’t see it as misleading in any way shape or form and a fair price too .

Crack on bud ! 

 
Yeh, I didn't have any real issue with the price and maybe came across stronger than intended.  As you have noticed this is meant to be quite a light hearted poke at adverts. 

If you really want rid of that PKM I have a friend who may be interested dependent on functionality and the price....

 
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I'm intrigued by the 20g bb's and 270ft range he's claiming it has.... at the same time as listing it as boneyard.

 
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That thing isn’t worth the postage cost, nevermind the £110 he wants 

 
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