M4 rail suggestions

sonofsammo · Jul 29, 2018

I need a new rail to go with the rest of this build.
The current rail twists - entirely my fault, as I have lost some bits from it.
I'd like M-lok, I think, but aside from that I'm open to suggestions.
Current is around 7"
I'm not averse to longer...

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Druid799 · Jul 29, 2018

Recon this would look very nice on it .?

http://www.taiwangun.com/en/ris-i-ras-i-sir/15-m-lok-free-float-handguard-black-vector-optics?from=listing&campaign-id=19

MisterG · Jul 29, 2018

Been looking at those, but a slightly shorter one.

Is there any advantage on having the screws on the side vs underneath in terms of strength?

Will want to put a bipod on the front of mine

Cheers

G

sonofsammo · Jul 29, 2018

Druid799 said:
Recon this would look very nice on it .?

http://www.taiwangun.com/en/ris-i-ras-i-sir/15-m-lok-free-float-handguard-black-vector-optics?from=listing&campaign-id=19

I think you might be right!

@Wo1f will this fit straight on, or will I need something else?

Wo1f · Jul 30, 2018

sonofsammo said:
I think you might be right!

@Wo1f will this fit straight on, or will I need something else?

i cant guarantee it, but providing you have a pts rail adapter, it should

Guest · Jul 30, 2018

I’m liking this at the moment

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Lozart · Jul 30, 2018

sonofsammo said:
I think you might be right!

@Wo1f will this fit straight on, or will I need something else?

Wo1f said:
i cant guarantee it, but providing you have a pts rail adapter, it should

It looks like it comes with all the bits you'll need BUT it does state that it fits "most 223 M4" so the thread might be different.

This one is listed as "AEG and GBB" compatible http://www.taiwangun.com/en/ris-i-ras-i-sir/12-5-m-lok-lightweight-handguard-for-ar-15-m4-black-bd?from=also-viewed&amp;campaign-id=8

Druid799 · Jul 30, 2018

rocketdogbert said:
I’m liking this at the moment

I like it but first thing that jumped to mind is a pistol carbine kit , think it’s the cut out underneath that gave it that impression for me

Lozart · Jul 30, 2018

Druid799 said:
I like it but first thing that jumped to mind is a pistol carbine kit , think it’s the cut out underneath that gave it that impression for me

There's no cutout, it's just the angle of the picture. I have one on a project build that I really should get around to finishing!

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Druid799 · Jul 30, 2018

Lozart said:
There's no cutout, it's just the angle of the picture. I have one on a project build that I really should get around to finishing!

Does look more pronounced in the advert than real life ! ?

AND yes you should ! ?

Lozart · Jul 30, 2018

Druid799 said:
Does look more pronounced in the advert than real life ! ?

It's because of the rail section underneath the fore end. The underside of the main part is a full run of M-LOK. In fact that build now has an M-LOK RVG on it.

The only issue with M-LOK right now is availability of accessories. Most of the airsoft manufacturers are still hooked on Keymod like the luddites they are so most of the M-LOK stuff I've bought is "proper" Magpul.

Druid799 · Jul 30, 2018

Lozart said:
It's because of the rail section underneath the fore end. The underside of the main part is a full run of M-LOK. In fact that build now has an M-LOK RVG on it.

The only issue with M-LOK right now is availability of accessories. Most of the airsoft manufacturers are still hooked on Keymod like the luddites they are so most of the M-LOK stuff I've bought is "proper" Magpul.

I’m sure I read somewhere that Keymod is going to be binned (could be COMPLETELY wrong but I’ve got it in my head) by all the major manufacturers and M-lok is the way there all going to go

mcwimbo · Jul 30, 2018

Troy TRX 13" battle rail

With squid grips, they make all the difference

https://www.fire-support.co.uk/product/madbull-troy-licensed-trx-battlerail-13-inch-w-3-bonus-quickattach-rail-sections

Lozart · Jul 31, 2018

Druid799 said:
I’m sure I read somewhere that Keymod is going to be binned (could be COMPLETELY wrong but I’ve got it in my head) by all the major manufacturers and M-lok is the way there all going to go

Not sure about completely but in the various tests that have been done of late M-Lok is certainly coming out on top. If the US military adopt it then I could see keymod ramping down, but for now there's a lot of it out in the civilian market. @CKinnerley knows more than I on the subject but this is the published results of the NSW CRANE testing https://ndiastorage.blob.core.usgovcloudapi.net/ndia/2017/armament/McGee19427.pdf

Druid799 · Jul 31, 2018

Cheers for that bud , I had it in my mind that I’d read it somewhere and it was doing my swede in ! ?

Lozart · Jul 31, 2018

Druid799 said:
Cheers for that bud , I had it in my mind that I’d read it somewhere and it was doing my swede in ! ?

Same thing here published on Soldier Systems http://soldiersystems.net/2017/05/05/details-on-the-ussocom-sponsored-keymod-vs-m-lok-test-conducted-at-nswc-crane/ interesting to read the comments and just how many keymod fanbois there are would suggest it won't go away any time soon. That and "but why didn't you use Geiselle and BCM?!?!?!"

Druid799 · Jul 31, 2018

Soldiersystems ! That’s where I read something ! ?

you know what it’s like ‘your drifting’ around the web you read or see somthing and then can’t for the life of you remember where you saw it ! ?‍

TheFull9 · Jul 31, 2018

I've mentioned it before, but there was a format war like HD-DVD and Blu-Ray; turned out M-LOK is cheaper to machine in terms of the handguards and as those tests show, more resilient where it matters. KeyMod is still fine for most folks, but it lost the war and everyone is moving to M-LOK which means that going forward you'll see barely any KeyMod forends or accessories by comparison.

US SOCOM has very much adopted M-LOK in the form of the Geissele URG-I. Us idiots in the MoD are going HKey (HK KeyMod) but that won't last, especially since it's now very likely the US Army will end up with M-LOK and if that happens that is the true and absolute death knell for any and all competing attachment systems.

Dentonboy · Jul 31, 2018

CKinnerley said:
I've mentioned it before, but there was a format war like HD-DVD and Blu-Ray; turned out M-LOK is cheaper to machine in terms of the handguards and as those tests show, more resilient where it matters. KeyMod is still fine for most folks, but it lost the war and everyone is moving to M-LOK which means that going forward you'll see barely any KeyMod forends or accessories by comparison.

US SOCOM has very much adopted M-LOK in the form of the Geissele URG-I. Us idiots in the MoD are going HKey (HK KeyMod) but that won't last, especially since it's now very likely the US Army will end up with M-LOK and if that happens that is the true and absolute death knell for any and all competing attachment systems.

I heard that Blu Ray won out as it was the format the porn studios went with...

TheFull9 · Aug 1, 2018

I mean.. maybe that contributed, but based on the reading I've done I highly doubt it given the streaming age we live in.

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