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Hey all... Im new to airsoft but im looking for advice for future purchases, so just trying to do my homework now so im prepared....

I already own a WE Desert Warrior 4.3 GBB and i know WE are a good brand... Im looking ahead into buying a GBB M4 but everywhere i look it seems to be sold out so im guessing its a good and popular gun!? 

Is there anywhere that have them usually in stock, or do i choose another brand other than WE (although i still find them out of stock...). Or - do i choose another rifle that is a similar performing and reliable gun? 
 

As i say, im new to all this and so im not fully aware of popular guns/brands, and im still learning all the technical lingo so please bare with me.

Thanks!

 
Honestly, we do not recommend a Gas rifle as a first rifle. You will be outgunned by pretty much all Electric rifles initially. 

There are plenty of M4 Gas rifles out there, but they may not be called an M4 specifically. 

 
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i read that electric rifles are the way to go for the competitiveness of it all - fires longer on auto etc... Its just that i really want the full on "fun" experience, and electric just doesnt seem to deliver that?

And can i ask, why would an experienced player then move on to GBB as opposed to having one as a beginner?

And what am i looking for if they arent called an m4? 

Cheers

 
Milspec Solutions have WE M4’s in stock at the minute. 

 
If you want an gbbr for your first gun go for it your cash.

I would avoid the WE M4 like the plague though.

TM MWS or GHK M4 is a far better option.

 
WE bar the occasional pistol are not a good make at all. Their gbbrs are frankly a waste of cash. They fail all the time and the performance is spotty at best. Almost every gbbr you see getting bagged back up during gameday is a WE.

The TM MWS is honestly the best buy. Not the cheapest but the extra is money well spent as it will just work and you need to do nothing to it. The WE will cost you more in the long run fixing it and trying get the performance you want. 

The newer ones have improved but compared to their competition they are still miles behind.

 
Would like to defend my WE L85 here, just needs a few DIY fixes and it performs like a champ, parts don't seem to wear out much at all once you add the fixes.

But yeah my WE M4 is a piece of shit, needs work, if i can be fucked! (TM MWS is a much better option).

Do yourself a favour and at least get a combat machine AEG as a backup gun, so if ur gbbr goes tits up, you can still play.

 
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Sean84 said:
Seen this one... looks good, and a reasonable price too i think?

https://www.milspecsolutions.co.uk/gas-blowback-rifles-and-smg-s/we-rifles-and-smg-s/we-m4-cqbr-gas-blowback-rifle-with-npas.html?limit=100
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WE guns are okay, but you have to be prepared to plough money into them. The internals will fail eventually, possibly soon, possibly later. But there are loads of upgrade parts available. You can pretty much build the gun from scratch with the amount of parts available. Tokyo Marui and GHK are by far superior products, but the price reflects that. They are more expensive. Of course, buy the time you upgrade a WE you could have bought a TM or GHK. 

As a GBB fan myself I don’t even look at electric guns, but you have to be able to maintain and repair them and understand that you will need upgrade parts. Also, you will likely be outgunned and out performed by someone with an electric gun costing a third of the price of a GBB, just because they’ll have a high cap mag with around 100 rounds against your gas mag with 30 and their gun isn’t effected by the air temperature like a GBB.

 
UKCYukarin said:
Would like to defend my WE L85 here, just needs a few DIY fixes and it performs like a champ, parts don't seem to wear out much at all once you add the fixes.

But yeah my WE M4 is a piece of shit, needs work, if i can be fucked! (MWS is a much better option).
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Any gun that needs DIY fixes has no defense it just guilty of being a WE ?

Super64 said:
WE guns are okay, but you have to be prepared to plough money into them. 
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That is one of the best examples of destroying your own argument in a single sentence I have ever seen ?

 
ImTriggerHappy said:
Any gun that needs DIY fixes has no defense it just guilty of being a WE ?
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True, but the L85 is one of those that needs less fixes and has less failures (example, my bloody WE M4 bolt catches wear out crazy, L85 bolt catch still going strong) So if you had to go for a WE GBBR, I would say L85.

But fuck WE in general.

 
If you have the cash, the TM or GHK are definitely the way to go. Both brilliant guns out of the box, but like all GBB you will likely need to spend money on them in time. Unlike electric guns, because you have mechanical moving parts, they can and will fail over time. TM and GHK internals will (should) last much longer than WE. YouTube is a great resource to do some research on the different GBB’s. Badabing has a number of good reviews which point out the + and - of TM and GHK. Well worth a look.

 
Super64 said:
If you have the cash, the TM or GHK are definitely the way to go. Both brilliant guns out of the box, but like all GBB you will likely need to spend money on them in time. Unlike electric guns, because you have mechanical moving parts, they can and will fail over time. TM and GHK internals will (should) last much longer than WE. YouTube is a great resource to do some research on the different GBB’s. Badabing has a number of good reviews which point out the + and - of TM and GHK. Well worth a look.
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Ok great thanks for the info! I'll check his channel out at some point soon.
I dont mind maintenance. In a funny kinda way, i will take that as part and parcel  of owning a gun. All part of the fun! And i can use the days prior to a game to tinker and prepare! (its the mechanic in me i think ?)

 
Sean84 said:
Ok great thanks for the info! I'll check his channel out at some point soon.
I dont mind maintenance. In a funny kinda way, i will take that as part and parcel  of owning a gun. All part of the fun! And i can use the days prior to a game to tinker and prepare! (its the mechanic in me i think ?)
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Same here mate. The tinkering and maintaining is all part of it for me. I probably spend more time doing that than actually shooting the things.

 
Sorry if it sounds cruel but your posts come across as someone who hasn’t a clue about the subject , so unless your going to be jumping straight in to ‘themed’ or mil-sim airsofting then as a total novice with a gas primary your going to be woefully out gunned by even the newest of rental players with a shitty site rental and a hi-cap ! To put it bluntly mate your going to have an absolutely shit experience of getting hosed left right and centre when you actually start playing . You’ll be making almost as big a mistake as the noob who turns up to his first game day with a shit quality puss green L96 he bought from ‘BBgunzisbestest.com’ and thinks he’s going to own the site like he does on-line AND gets totally humiliated by a 12yr old kid with a knackered AK beta spetz held together with gaffa tape that he’s had from the site ! ?‍♂️

Just get yourself something like a G&G combat machine and enjoy starting out on the same level as everyone else THEN 6-8-12mths down the line think about getting a gas gun and stepping up your game . Savvy ? ?

 
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Druid799 said:
Sorry if it sounds cruel but your posts come across as someone who hasn’t a clue about the subject , so unless your going to be jumping straight in to ‘themed’ or mil-sim airsofting then as a total novice with a gas primary your going to be woefully out gunned by even the newest of rental players with a shitty site rental and a hi-cap ! To put it bluntly mate your going to have an absolutely shit experience of getting hosed left right and centre when you actually start playing . You’ll be making almost as big a mistake as the noob who turns up to his first game day with a shit quality puss green L96 he bought from ‘BBgunzisbestest.com’ and thinks he’s going to own the site like he does on-line AND gets totally humiliated by a 12yr old kid with a knackered AK beta spetz held together with gaffa tape that he’s had from the site ! ?‍♂️

Just get yourself something like a G&G combat machine and enjoy starting out on the same level as everyone else THEN 6-8-12mths down the line think about getting a gas gun and stepping up your game . Savvy ? ?
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Clearly you have more experience in the whole game than I do, and I’m sure you know best. And I appreciate the brutal honesty. 

I haven’t bought this gun yet. I’m just getting ideas. I get what you mean about electric rentals will out gun me. I just don’t want to part cash with something that doesn’t give me that fun factor. 

I’m not set in my ways, I’m open to trying a few and seeing what the results are... will just have to wait and see really.

looking on the electric side then, any suggestions of elec m4’s??....

 
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