Looking for Thoughts on Eye Pro

[Shaydee]

I'll mimic @Lozart's stance on this. Rated well known protection is what you want and you definitely want something that is rated higher than within a fine line (like Z87.1 is just about 343 fps). There's always the chance that someone is running hot, or a BASR/DMR is a bit antsy on the trigger finger when you come around a corner. You want something made to withstand multiple impacts as fully automatic fire is a thing. Obviously full seal is best (I use a gasket with my ESS crossbows), but ratings are a must.

I'll throw this in here - note that FMA are a Chinese clone.
 



You want to be protected for that worst case scenario and with a product that has been tested as such.

 

[EDcase]

OK, the Bolle Trackers would be a good option then.

 

[Lozart]

OK, the Bolle Trackers would be a good option then.

Yep. I have a pair in my kitbag somewhere. You need to use them with the headband to get a good seal (comes with it though).

 

[EDcase]

Yep, definitely use headband version ?

 

[38super]

I absolutely appreciate your point, what I'm trying to say though is that FMA are NOT "good quality" goggles. There's enough Revision/ESS surplus out there that there's no reason to buy cheap Chinese eyepro with no certified safety testing.

Bolle Trackers are full seal, EN166 B and cost £15. What more do you want?

Can you attach face pro to the Bolle Trackers or would that not work?

I’ve just got myself the Bolle Combat kit which comes with three lenses. So far, so good, wanted something that I could attach directly to helmet which these do, but also I have the option of putting the strap on them if I just want to run with a baseball cap on.

I haven’t managed to get them to fog yet, probably famous last words for my first full day skirmish with them on the 4th.

Not cheap (not ridiculous either at ~£50) but I always used to play with mesh, now I’m wearing contact lenses I want that extra level of protection that the safety glasses give, without having to run prescription lenses etc. 
 

On the topic of lower face pro, give Delta Mike a search on Facebook. Really comfortable snood type face pro, with a metal grate over the mouth (and nose depending how you want to wear it). Lead time is about 4-5 weeks but so breathable and so much more comfortable than any other face pro I’ve worn before. 

I looked at the Delta Mike face pro but I'm not sure about the balaclava type setup. I'd like to be able to wear ear pro and I'm not sure ear defenders would work with it. Maybe ear defenders are a bit OTT though?

 

[Lozart]

Can you attach face pro to the Bolle Trackers or would that not work?

I'm sure you probably can. @heroshark is the man to talk to though, it's what he does!

 

[heroshark]

I'm sure you probably can. @heroshark is the man to talk to though, it's what he does!

Yep don't work so well with the China made mesh masks. I've always made custom ones for the bolle tracker frames. As said more substantial frames are more straight forward depending on the profile. I think x800 gives a fair seal, good ventilation, easy to mount a mask.

 

[leadly]

I've got some Revision bullet ants, which don't sweat up too much when they've had a rub with a revision wipe.

Also got some @heroshark Speartooth's and cannot fault the quality. 

Both pairs have taken direct hits with no bother.

 

[SSPKali]

I have been running Bolle Tracker II's for the last few years with FogStop (FaceBook) or ReVision antifog wipes. 

DeltaMike face pro is great and can be used with ear protection.

I have Honeywell set, active protection / amplification and comms input....plus half the price and ACTUALLY WORK vs Earmor! EdgarBrothers stock them.

Ear pro is a good idea because being shot in the ear really, really hurts and tinnitus is a bitch. Outdoors might not be an issue but a Mk5 going off in the 2m x 1m concrete cell you are in is another matter!

 

[Lozart]

tinnitus is a bitch

I have Honeywell set, active protection / amplification and comms input....

By the way - are we talking Howard Leight here?

 

[Speedbird_666]

Ear pro is a good idea because being shot in the ear really, really hurts and tinnitus is a bitch. Outdoors might not be an issue but a Mk5 going off in the 2m x 1m concrete cell you are in is another matter!

I Invested in a couple set of Peltor XPs for this reason - I was playing CQB at a (now closed) local site semi-regularly against a team (5-6 players) with literally bandoliers loaded with (no exaggeration) 5-10 BFGs each strapped to them. Within a 10 minute match, you could expect to be on the receiving end of literally dozens of BFGs. The noise was mental and literally damaging.

It got so bad that some of us wouldn't play the kill house game (one team defends a small building, attackers from 360 degrees around it) if said team was playing that day. I think the refs implemented a 1 grenade per player per game rule in the end.

I hear (no pun intended) that Howard Leights/Honeywell are pretty good especially at the £55 posted price point. I've not heard such good things about Earmors.

 

[Lozart]

I hear (no pun intended) that Howard Leights/Honeywell are pretty good especially at the £55 posted price point. I've not heard such good things about Earmors.

Maybe I'm the lucky one but I've not had any real issues with my Earmors. The spring in the battery compartment leaves a bit to be desired but it's nothing that a quick stretch with a pair of pliers doesn't fix. I am tempted by a pair of Howard Leights though based on cost and the desire for a second headset to use when I'm not wearing a helmet.

 

[Speedbird_666]

Maybe I'm the lucky one but I've not had any real issues with my Earmors. The spring in the battery compartment leaves a bit to be desired but it's nothing that a quick stretch with a pair of pliers doesn't fix. I am tempted by a pair of Howard Leights though based on cost and the desire for a second headset to use when I'm not wearing a helmet.

I'm sure if you get a 'good' pair then you're golden with Earmors.

Another alternative to Howard Leights is the slightly more expensive (but slightly cooler looking) Walkers Razor Slim. I've not seen in the 'real', but apparently they are somewhat comparable to the HLs.

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[gunbod007]

I once had some Bolle glasses, not sure of the model. They were good except fogged with a lower face mask.

Also I didn't really feel like they offered the best and safest seal.

Got the Pyromex I-Force now because Novritsch.

Haven't used them in the field yet

 

[SSPKali]

By the way - are we talking Howard Leight here?

Yes, those are the ones.

 

[Cheeky vimto]

I used a WarQ helmet, I can't get it to fog up. It's full face and has ear protection. Brilliant bit of kit. 

 

[Hatchet]

My current options (that I've had a few years now) are the Bolle 800s and revision bullet ant.

I favour the bullet ant for most skirmishes since their lower profile makes them easier to fit under hats and the like. You can also usually pick them up on Ebay since they were/are UK issued. You can then also just get replacement lenses. So pick up a used set for £15-£20 and a new set of lenses for similar. Much cheaper than £75 for a new set. Obviously rip the foam lining out of them to aid airflow. I find them to be low fog, but if I'm running hot and static then they can fog (to be fair, I'm not using any coatings/sprays). Easy to take apart and clean as well. I think I'm on my second set of these as the originals eventually perished (possibly aided by cam cream).

The bolles are excellent if I'm running a helmet, and I prefer to wear them in these situations as they cover more of the gaps. In combination with a mesh lower, you get decent full face coverage. Airflow is good. Again, it is possible to get them to fog, but generally they don't. Again, easy to break down and replace/clean lenses as needed.

Both of these are obviously properly ANSI rated and probably worth replacing the lenses every couple of years to allow for UV breakdown and general wear and tear.

I don't do mesh because I find it reduces visibility/light too much for my liking (plus, shattering bb potential) or shooting glasses since I shot some off someones face with a 3rd burst from about 20m.

 

[SSPKali]

Worth mentioning that if you want no fogging, face and ear protection and certified lens's the Dye i4 is worth every penny. 

My first airsoft purchase (as playing loads of CQB) and you can get them in camo / subdued colours if you are not a speedyboi ?

Only possible downside is needing to raise your optic a bit higher, depending on platform (MP5 amd AK are not an issue)

 

[Adolf Hamster]

AK are not an issue

ladies and gentlemen let me present the NIT-A:

https://russianoptics.net/NIT-A.html

because even a beard weld isn't enough bore offset.....

 

[DerDer]

ladies and gentlemen let me present the NIT-A:

https://russianoptics.net/NIT-A.html

because even a beard weld isn't enough bore offset.....

Reminds me of the bodge jobs with RPG optic sights attached to AKs.