Israeli loadout

[Russe11]

I don't want warning point's so i'm not going to post the reply i wrote out

i shall just say this..if i was to choose who i'd want fighting by my side against IS/taliban i'd pick an israeli soldier over a Hamas militant any day of the week ^_^

I'd want Hamas, having Israel fight on your side means every arab state would side with ISIS. That said, it's not the Israeli soldier on the ground who makes policy and it's him you are portraying. I would however try and do it without buying from Israel.

 

[b1n0gHo5t]

I'd want Hamas, having Israel fight on your side means every arab state would side with ISIS. That said, it's not the Israeli soldier on the ground who makes policy and it's him you are portraying. I would however try and do it without buying from Israel.

Do you do the same thing about *Islamic* made items/services..if not your a hypocrite ^_^

 

[straffham]

Since the TAR seems to be pretty poor unless you upgrade I'm gonna avoid it cheers for the heads up. I'm gonna check out the galil, I forgot about that gun anyone know the best make to go for and price?

I have the Cyma one, uses their V3 gearbox which is strong and reliable, though had to downgrade the spring as it was firing 400fps ootb, so reshimmed it and relubed whilst at it, and fitted a TM hop rubber. It shoots superbly now.I also semi permanently fitted a 9.6 battery pack in the foregrip as I dislike stick batteries. The new pack fits no problem. The only issue I had was the (obviously unlicensed) trades had been lasered off the receiver leaving bare metal in places, these I touched in with dark grey paint. On the same issue the box lid was turned inside out, inside is a full colour pic of the gun showing the trades!

Otherwise its a great gun, at £170 its virtually half what a KingArms or ICS would cost (last time I checked) so I didn't mind a few small jobs. Like the King Arms the fire selector on the left side is a dummy moulded into the grip, whereas the ICS has it fully functional IIRC, which would be better since the stock folds to the right side across the AK style selector. The supplied hi cap works perfectly,not had any issues at all.

Basically its a good gun if you don't mind a little diy, if money is no object then either of the other 2 will be nicer externally at least ootb.

 

[BrightCandle]

Embarassingly I can't work out how to get the trigger back together! Of all the things top trip up on....it has one of the most non standard gearboxes out there and I just can't get this trigger unit back together (its 2 screws, a plate of metal, the trigger, spring and a pin....I mean seriously how hard can it be). I would estimate for anyone used to taking there guns apart they will spend a couple of hours on full strip down and rebuild at least, its quite a lot of work.

Now I desperately need to find some pictures of the internals around the trigger so I can put it back together.

 

[Russe11]

Do you do the same thing about *Islamic* made items/services..if not your a hypocrite ^_^

I have no problem buying from 'Islamic' countries. To me, religion has nothing to do with it. The position in Israel is that the army is responding to rocket attacks which are not even capable of penetrating the Israeli missile defences with massive firepower hitting residential areas where it is obvious that the majority of victims will be civilians. This is effectively genocide.

 

[AirsoftTed]

Now now Lads, here's not the place for politics and bickering. Let's keep the forum for airsoft and this thread for helping the OP with his questions. I'd suggest taking it over to PM if you wish to continue it any further.

I have strong politics myself, not on this matter but I understand that everyone has a different opinion, and arguing about politics is pointless as no one wins.

 

[b1n0gHo5t]

Sigh..you're right i apologise to the OP for deviating from his comment

 

[Russe11]

Guess that's us told

But, yeah, Israeli loadout=politically sensitive.

Be prepared for this sort of argument, but that doesn't mean don't do it. It's about portraying the average guy on the ground, not the government telling him who to shoot at.

This is the reason it is fine to portray WW2 Germans.

 

[dapprman]

I have no problem buying from 'Islamic' countries. To me, religion has nothing to do with it. The position in Israel is that the army is responding to rocket attacks which are not even capable of penetrating the Israeli missile defences with massive firepower hitting residential areas where it is obvious that the majority of victims will be civilians. This is effectively genocide.

So you have no problem with rockets being fired from not only civilian areas but inside UN compounds (even the UN admitted to it happening this time), inside schools (drone video shows this), inside hotel zones (Indian TV), and those rockets being fired daily at non military targets on a daily basis for over 6 months ? And you also have no problem with taking building materials and money from civilian programs to build tunnels in to Israel for the purpose of attack (over $20 million on these, the one shown on TV was estimated to have cost $3-4 alone). You have no problems keeping food away from kids to be able to present hungry crying children before the TV, or dragging children's bodies from hospitals and replacing HAMAS soldier bodies with those, killing them in the process so as to make propaganda shots for the west to show (also caught by Indian reporters) ......

I should point out that there is also a growing nasty racist presence in Israel and almost certainly there are soldiers who have been shooting innocents on purpose and using the troubles to get their kicks. Not sure quite when it started but it was certainly present during the second intifada as that turned many Israeli Arabs against the Jews they had previously supported and for the Palestinians they had traditionally hated.

Rant over.

 

[Esoterick]

This thread is getting derailed in a not very nice way, on what is normally a pretty chilled out forum.

 

[Airsoft_Mr B]

I don't exactly support Hamas. As they fire rockets it's just encouraging Israel and giving them more of an excuse to attack. Israel are clearly in the wrong though, which you seem to fail to understand.

So two or three Israelis get kidnapped or whatever, Israel responds by sending in troops and tanks and completely blowing the situation out of proportion yet again. As Russell and myself already pointed out Israel attack civ targets.

Regardless of who's good or not in this war (Hamas / Israel) Israel are killing civs unnecessarily / destroying their houses. I'd say you can't really justify that.

Then b1n0g decides he'll say I'm a naive child who's watched too much al-Jazeera...how mature of you.

I'm sure all of this is making a bad impression on our new members, and in addition the thread is majorly off track at the moment.

Sorry to say this is the only major sort of disagreement there's been on here. If we could just agree to disagree and move on it would be best for everyone tbf

 

[straffham]

Embarassingly I can't work out how to get the trigger back together! Of all the things top trip up on....it has one of the most non standard gearboxes out there and I just can't get this trigger unit back together (its 2 screws, a plate of metal, the trigger, spring and a pin....I mean seriously how hard can it be). I would estimate for anyone used to taking there guns apart they will spend a couple of hours on full strip down and rebuild at least, its quite a lot of work.

Now I desperately need to find some pictures of the internals around the trigger so I can put it back together.

which gun is that mate, Galil?
EDIT scrolled back and realised its the Tar21, not one I'mfamiliar with tbh sorry.

 

[Russe11]

<--possible cheap loadout suggestion to lighten the mood

 

[Finius]

Everybody shut up about isis/israel/hamas or I might get angry.

OP doesnt want political commentary or he'd be watching BBC Parliament.

 

[Jambo88]

<--possible cheap loadout suggestion to lighten the mood

I'm sure if I turned out like this people would throw up

 

[Ian_Gere]

Just bear in mind, friends, the political ramifications of our spending power are a legitimate topic of conversation when considering where and what to buy, but no matter how passionate anyone may feel about any cause involved, we only want to see polite discourse - no name calling, deliberately obtuse styles, baiting people, basically no being a dick.

ICS Galil FTW.

 

[b1n0gHo5t]

After another innocent person gets Beheaded you post that comment.. [removed]

 

[Hav0c]

Calling anyone something like that is out of order on any thread on such a chill and polite forum such as this, but especially after Ian commented on the name calling and arrogance which has been shown on this particular thread by some people, that is out of order dude. (Even though it was a bit below the belt and it was on probably the most sensitive issue right now)

We need to bear in mind that Airsoft is a light-hearted pass time and none of us can really get annoyed and call each other names as TBH, we are all examples of the word in question as we pretend to be bloody soldiers at the weekend and run about with toy guns on steroids. We also need to remember the diverse political views of others on this forum and that your's may not be the same as other members'. In short, keep political discussions to PM or wherever else it's acceptable because helping out people with loadouts is not the place and nobody has time for reading it.

And on the note of helping out with the loadout: maybe going down the 'retro' route with this impression could possibly be cheaper, easier and a bit less controversial for the politically sensitive among us.

OD BDU's

Set of ALICE Webbing

Black Leather Boots

Galil.

 

[Monty]

Thread cleared. Behave.

 

[Russe11]

And on the note of helping out with the loadout: maybe going down the 'retro' route with this impression could possibly be cheaper, easier and a bit less controversial for the politically sensitive among us.

OD BDU's

Set of ALICE Webbing

Black Leather Boots

Galil.

Correct helmet for this would be a Mk2 British para helmet with canvas chinstrap.

http://www.sofmilitary.co.uk/mk2-airborne-paratrooper-helmet-product,12195