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Help on sniper rifles
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The HFC vsr11 is a clone of the TM vsr10 and is 100% vsr10 upgrade compatible
its also only £100 new however the quality wont be as high as the vsr, but seeing as you plan on upgrading that shouldn't really matter.
The JG bar10 is also vsr10 upgrade compatible, however they are relatively hard to come by.
its also only £100 new however the quality wont be as high as the vsr, but seeing as you plan on upgrading that shouldn't really matter.
The JG bar10 is also vsr10 upgrade compatible, however they are relatively hard to come by.
Liam Porter
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Fire Support have the Pro version in stock: http://www.fire-support.co.uk/product/marui-vsr10-pro-sniper-rifle
http://justbbguns.co.uk/product/53/PARTS-AND-TOOLS/380/RAILS/1407/VSR-TAC-RAIL#.UoJ4lOJk4o0
that rail would fit,
not the most reputable of websites but ive never had a problem dealing with them, and i think thats one of the best prices for vsr rails aswell
could be wrong tho
that rail would fit,
not the most reputable of websites but ive never had a problem dealing with them, and i think thats one of the best prices for vsr rails aswell
could be wrong tho
AK47frizzle
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Oooor... if yer not bothered with spending £1000 on internal upgrades for a vsr... get a HFC or Swiss arms co2 powered vsr.
Liam Porter
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Yeah, you can get a rail for it. TM make one themselves, and LayLax make one, there are other companies too, which will probably be cheaper.
Why would you suggest getting a gas powered sniper rifle over a spring powered one, unless you were suggesting HPA?
AK47frizzle
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They do not cost as much to upgrade. Tightbore, bucking, hop up chamber, possibly nub, and you're done.
M_P
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Have you considered that there might be a reason everyone always suggests a tokyo marui VSR10 and no one ever even mentions a snow wolf rifle, let alone a gas powered rifle by them.
VSRs dont have nubs as such, they have hop arms that press on the bucking.
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Liam Porter
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You missed the part where they're inconsistent, losing power each shot until the mag is re-filled/CO2 capsule replaced, is pretty much useless in a sniper. That's why HPA is the best way to go, using a regulator to get the same volume of air released every shot gives pretty consistent results.
A TM VSR isn't even too expensive to upgrade, there are cheaper alternatives to brands like LayLax and PDI, for example, ASPUK.
AK47frizzle
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..... upgrades are gonna be over £200... and that is expensive. I was just mentioning a cheaper alternative. The're not terribly inconsistent, just a little bit. There are gas sniper rifles on the market for a reason.
Liam Porter
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A semi-decent gas sniper is going to be more than that before upgrades, and the magazines are more expensive, you have to buy gas. The only ones I see that regularly have a decent reputation are Tanaka ones, which are about £300.
Anyway, let's not hijack the thread any more than we already have.
AK47frizzle
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well, the one i suggested uses vsr mags.... and uses co2.... and does not cost more than 150 itself......
NickM
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Actually, TM VSR and JG Bar are recommended , the VSR especially as they are so damn good out of the box. Without too many expensive upgrades you can get a very reliable sniper.
1 Swap the trigger and piston sears for steel or another alloy. ( £24)
2 Replace the spring with something with a bit more grunt. and put in a steel spring guide ( M150 £13.99, spring guide £16.99)
3 replace the standard hop arm with the dangerwerx one (£23.99) not necessary really you could do the biro hop mod.
4 new barrel if you really want one although the TM one is supposed to be pretty good anyway.
Keep the original hop rubber if TM.
Free upgrades, they mostly involve things you have lying around:-
polish the barrel
the TDC hop mod, basically a hole is drilled directly down on top of the hop unit with a nut glued to the top and a screw which winds down and presses directly onto the hop arm, this stops the arm twisting and applying indirect pressure.
wash your bbs ( test 0.25, 0.28, 0.30, 0.36 and 0.40 to see what is best.)
I make that £55 worth of upgrades for a VSR not including a barrel.
1 Swap the trigger and piston sears for steel or another alloy. ( £24)
2 Replace the spring with something with a bit more grunt. and put in a steel spring guide ( M150 £13.99, spring guide £16.99)
3 replace the standard hop arm with the dangerwerx one (£23.99) not necessary really you could do the biro hop mod.
4 new barrel if you really want one although the TM one is supposed to be pretty good anyway.
Keep the original hop rubber if TM.
Free upgrades, they mostly involve things you have lying around:-
polish the barrel
the TDC hop mod, basically a hole is drilled directly down on top of the hop unit with a nut glued to the top and a screw which winds down and presses directly onto the hop arm, this stops the arm twisting and applying indirect pressure.
wash your bbs ( test 0.25, 0.28, 0.30, 0.36 and 0.40 to see what is best.)
I make that £55 worth of upgrades for a VSR not including a barrel.
Do the TM VSR's require you to drill out a pin on the cylinder head before you can actually gain access to the insides of the cylinder? I was thinking on getting a tm vsr10 aswell for upgrading but if it requires driling out a pin id rather save £80 and buy myself a vsr11 clone :s
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Yeah this is a bit of a rumour, as Nick said you can get a very reliable sniper with minimal outlay. Anything other than that is a optional luxury if you have the money to spend, but you probably won't see that much difference. Thats not to say a non Marui clone would be the same, that might need 200 quids worth of upgrades (I've not got time to check) by the time you get a new barrel, hop rubber etc.
Unrustle_Thine_Jimmies
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Drilling the pin is not hard. Once you have it 3/4 of the way through you can simply break the rest off when screwing off the head. Just do it in a well lit area,well clamped down on a vice and most importantly, make a good indent into the steel so the drill does not wander. DO NOT LET THE DRILL WANDER!
As long as the O ring is in good condition and you have a good amount of material on your cylinder your air seal will be fine.
Granted,I've done it a bajillion times now so I may just be used to it.
And Also,you do not need to shell out stupid amounts of money for a reliable and well shooting rifle.
You can get an ASPUK trigger and piston set for around 80£,spring of your choosing for a tenner and a Dangerwerx Type A arm for 20£. The Stock TM rubber,unit and barrel are really good and usable.
Wonders can be made with some DIY work,such as molding the bucking to the barrel with non crack nail polish,sealing the head with silicone,of course,the every so effective TDC mod and you can even mod the hop unit to accept and AEG bucking and barrel. Not that you'd want to,the VSR system is better IMO.
If you're feeling fancy you can go for a Type B arm and a PDi W hold,the W hold adding only 8£ to the total-with express shipping.
I've already talked to loads of people,including the local shop owner-who shelled out stupid amounts of money on the BASRs and saying it's ''not worth it''
The needing to shell out a sh*t ton may be true for Yank-Land since they tend to get raped on price mark up and they do not have the blessing of ASPUK.
As long as the O ring is in good condition and you have a good amount of material on your cylinder your air seal will be fine.
Granted,I've done it a bajillion times now so I may just be used to it.
And Also,you do not need to shell out stupid amounts of money for a reliable and well shooting rifle.
You can get an ASPUK trigger and piston set for around 80£,spring of your choosing for a tenner and a Dangerwerx Type A arm for 20£. The Stock TM rubber,unit and barrel are really good and usable.
Wonders can be made with some DIY work,such as molding the bucking to the barrel with non crack nail polish,sealing the head with silicone,of course,the every so effective TDC mod and you can even mod the hop unit to accept and AEG bucking and barrel. Not that you'd want to,the VSR system is better IMO.
If you're feeling fancy you can go for a Type B arm and a PDi W hold,the W hold adding only 8£ to the total-with express shipping.
I've already talked to loads of people,including the local shop owner-who shelled out stupid amounts of money on the BASRs and saying it's ''not worth it''
The needing to shell out a sh*t ton may be true for Yank-Land since they tend to get raped on price mark up and they do not have the blessing of ASPUK.
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M_P
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Some double eagle guns use aeg mags, that doesn't mean that they're good options though.
@op: As said, follow everyone else's diy mods mentioned as they certainly cut costs a lot. No one has mentioned barrel spacers yet though- get some electrical tape and rap around the barrel in a few places down it's length so that it's tight inside the inner barrel. Upgrading sniper rifles can be done for relatively cheaply as mentioned above- however I would advise spending the extra on PDI or Laylax parts if you have the money as they will give better results.
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