Help me choose a new pistol?

[Lozart]

What about the Socom Gear M9a1? http://socomgear.com/english/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=7&products_id=36

320-340FPS on Green Gas, 26 rd mags. Not sure on the CO2 issue but they're £170 ish with a mag and silencer.

Or the ASG M9A1 heavyweight? I know you can get CO2 mags for that.... http://www.socomtactical.net/airsoft-guns/professional-airsoft-guns/pistols/asg-m9-ia-heavy-weight-gas.html

 

[PT247]

...... But yeah, Skorpion... you've pretty much read my mind - except, what sort of holster can you carry them in?

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I managed to fit my M4 Mini Patriot with mag fitted in a std pistol drop leg holster and then used a velcro strap to hold the stock to my hip/belt. Worked ok but was a bit clumsy. Ed's idea of sling and strap makes more sense for ease of use

 

[Ian_Gere]

hi ian

what about these two links?

http://www.armysurplusandtoys.com/WE-F226-GBB-pistol-with-rail-p/we-f226-gbb-pistol.htm

and if you wanted something different to add

http://www.armysurplusandtoys.com/sig-226-CQB-conversion-kit-RONI-p/sig-226-cqb-conversion-kit-ron.htm

a bit over budget but what do you think?

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Too little FPS for the budget and I can't really get my head around those kits - I'm not a fan of little guns in general, I mean my AKS is about as small as comfortably fits my long arms. If I do get a Skorpion, I'll use it as a pistol, not with the wire stock extended.

Pantac did one exactly the same as this http://www.fire-support.co.uk/product/strike-thigh-holster-mp5km11mp7vz61black on redwolf, but they seem to have gotten rid of it from their website, sorry.

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That looks pretty good, mate, cheers

 

[Ian_Gere]

What about the Socom Gear M9a1? http://socomgear.com/english/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=7&products_id=36

320-340FPS on Green Gas, 26 rd mags. Not sure on the CO2 issue but they're £170 ish with a mag and silencer.

Or the ASG M9A1 heavyweight? I know you can get CO2 mags for that.... http://www.socomtactical.net/airsoft-guns/professional-airsoft-guns/pistols/asg-m9-ia-heavy-weight-gas.html

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The Socom Gear is never going to go with any loadout I might wear. I mean, "NO MAN LEFT BEHIND" etched on it? "NO MAN'S LEFT BOLLOCK" maybe, or "NO MAN IS AN ISLAND"... "OH MAN MY BEHIND" and I'm not paying £120 for a plastic gun with fixed hop. If I got a Beretta, I'd go for a 92FS if possible, for sentimental reasons, but the only one I've seen has some poxy 6rnd cylinder/daisy wheel contraption to hold BB's: even if it works a damn sight better than it looks, I'd lose the wheels anyway :lol:

Is there a good 92FS around ppl?

I managed to fit my M4 Mini Patriot with mag fitted in a std pistol drop leg holster and then used a velcro strap to hold the stock to my hip/belt. Worked ok but was a bit clumsy. Ed's idea of sling and strap makes more sense for ease of use

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Yeah I could do something like that I spose. Thing is, I already carry my AKS like that, when I'm using it as a sniper back up. Part of what I want a new pistol for is because it's not satisfactory - I need a back up to stay still and silent when I'm not using it.

So far the HK3/WE PX4 is ahead by a nose, but the barrel is a bit too short for my liking (maybe I could put a short can on it and extend the inner barrel?), closely followed by one of those USP's with the compensator, but I need to have a look for Vz61 Skorpions that are better than the ASG one. Bit of a pisser that, b/c Patrol Base have the holster Geoff recommended, cheaper than Fire Base too, and the ASG. I'm wondering if there's a GBB Skorpion?

 

[armysurplusandtoys]

ok ian i must admit the roni does feel good and comfortable.

 

[M_P]

I'm wondering if there's a GBB Skorpion?

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Pretty sure maruzen make/made one

 

[Baz JJ]

This is a bit like trying to go shopping with the wife and help her choose a dress ! lol

 

[Ian_Gere]

This is a bit like trying to go shopping with the wife and help her choose a dress ! lol

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Yeah, I was just checking pics of Berettas to confirm my notoriously hazy memory and the one I actually remember isn't a 92FS, it's a 92 Combat, which has a 1" compensator to house barrel bushings that eliminate wobble caused by the slide. Bit weird that they called it "Combat" since it's optimised for competition target shooting :lol: Although I'm pretty sure I was told the pistol I remember from back in the day was an FS and, come to think of it, I don't remember it having the height adjustable rear sight, so maybe it was a 92FS with only part of the Combat kit installed... fussy, moi?

Chances of finding an airsoft one without paying for custom CNC? Slim to none I'd guess. Ho hum...

 

[Ian_Gere]

Hmmm... the Maruzen Vz61 Skorpion just got a serious boost...

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It would need a bit of modification because the airsoft mag is longer than the original box mag, but @US$42 posted it's not like fvcking it up is such a daunting prospect that I'd be too worried to have a go. I've got a spare old Soviet triple AK mag pouch that's so far gone it'd take more work than I can be arsed with to fix, but I could take the leather patch and stud off it and use one of the leather straps to lock it above the mag and it'd look pretty much like it was supposed to be like that.

I'm not really a fan of leather gear, but this surplus gear is so knackered that using it is obviously re-using it, so it doesn't create a demand for new leather, and it would go with my KLMK suit a lot better than a spanking new Strike drop-leg...

But then again, it's 30rnd gas mags to buy and maintain...

 

[jcheeseright]

TM 5-7... Excellent gun and I just happen to have one for sale! Well under budget too.

 

[Unrustle_Thine_Jimmies]

I'd actually go against the ASG/KJW M9 Heavyweight mentioned before. As much as I love it and as reliable as it is,there are far better guns for the price out there and a little extra spending can net you an excellent KWA M9 PTP,or TM M9A1.

Good luck on hunting a Maruzen Skorpion,Those things are produced in limited quantity and I hear it's pretty sought after in Japan. Mags are 'spensive too. But they pop up on Redwolf and Japanese shops from time to time.

It has an issue of the upper receiver coming away from the lower with full auto fire,Maruzen's evil way of restricting us to 134a. Can be fixed with gaffer tape,Elastic bands or by modifying the receiver. Try PulseAirsoft,a 'shop' run by a French guy living in Japan,could be a good help on your hunt.

If you can't find one the TM skorpion AEP is about 130£ on echigoya,if you really want a skorpion.

 

[Ian_Gere]

TM 5-7... Excellent gun and I just happen to have one for sale! Well under budget too.

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Yeah, I've read your add, mate. The thing is that if i did buy a 5-7 i'd also buy a Battlestar Galactica belt kit, so i wouldn't need your pouches - i'll never need tan/ct/cb/woteva either. But i'm just not convinced that a gun with such low fps is going to cut it on a woodland site. Can you even feel it through a tissue t-shirt?

 

[Unrustle_Thine_Jimmies]

Another recommendation inbound,the KJW CZ75 Co2. Seems reliable,super nice kick and action. Fires around 350 I think. Also it's easbloc so it's 1000x better than anything else

TM 5-7,M9A1,P226,PX4 etc..May only shoot 280-300(Deagle shoots 320-330) But load in some .28s and they sting like an absolute bitch. I've been shot with a PX4 at around 25m ages ago and My wound still is a tiny bit visible.

 

[Ian_Gere]

Yeah, I've held a KJW CZ75. It didn't fit my hand really badly, but I don't remember it being that comfy either. Yeah, I know 280 will do it. I was just pulling James' leg. I wouldn't mind a 5-7 actually, but I don't have enough money to go so far that way on the scale between style and substance.