Help! I can't see the enemy.

[Tommikka]

A wise sniper san once said to me look right to left rather than our normal reading direction of left to right..does it work...no idea 

The principle is sound

Stay on routine and our brains don’t concentrate, just scanning.  

(This is why you can sometimes get away without camouflage -  crouched and still and people just looking around won’t see the obvious right in front, but might catch you in their peripheral vision)

Reversing to view right to left changes the brains routine,  it has to concentrate to interpret the view and then sees what is there 

 

[mimozine]

i never had a problem in woodland, most people tend to wear mtp which sticks out like a bulldogs spericals. 

my advice get an expendable "friend" and send him ahead lol

 

[djben9]

Never tried any other of my lenses except clear but have been tempted with the yellow one my locusts come with 

was temped to use the smoked ones as a bright day but in and out of buildings as well.....was worried I’d need a torch!!

 

[Adolf Hamster]

Never tried any other of my lenses except clear but have been tempted with the yellow one my locusts come with 

was temped to use the smoked ones as a bright day but in and out of buildings as well.....was worried I’d need a torch!!

Yellow is worth trying, bit weird at first but you get used to it very quickly and end up forgetting until you take them off.

Theyre great because unlike fully tinted lenses they're still fine in the shade, great when outdoors and transitioning between clear skies and woodland. Or entering a building.

 

[TheFull9]

Gotta be honest I think there's a ton of snake oil in most tinted lenses, certainly in promotional material for them.  You wanna see gear that works?  Look at international shooting competitors; 3-gun, Olympics, global military shooting competitions, heck special forces in theatre.  What I see them all wearing is clear lenses or shades... that's it in the vast majority of cases.  These are people who know infinitely more about these things than any of us and have the money and experience to buy and try every single option on the market then use all those options extensively.

If something works for you then use it, fire away, I'll never tell you not to. But personally I go clear if I'll be in the dark and regular darkened lenses for bright days, nothing more to it and most eye pro comes with both.

 

[Adolf Hamster]

I know this is going to sound like i'm being obstinant but this is the internet so some weird force compels me to put forth my tuppence.

i tend not to go by what competition shooters use, after all they're going to be on fixed ranges knowing exactly the conditions they're going to be shooting in and especially for competition your looking at known targets that arent going to conceal themselves (which is exactly the point of this thread). Even better is they have time to prepare because by the time they're waiting for their turn to shoot they have plenty of time to swap out to tinted if the suns out.

You have a valid point about special forces, cant say i've studied what they're using in theatre in great detail although i'd wager that the choice of lense is probably going to be very highly dependant on the particular theatre theyre in (ie it stands to reason they'd wear sunglasses in the desert).

I tend to find for me at least that fully tinted lenses when going from open skies to shaded forest there's a noticable darkness that takes time to adjust to, with clear lenses on a sunny day it can be a pain. But with yellow it sheilds enough from the sun yet going into the shade you arent as aware of the change. Works for me and i reccommend at least trying it, might not be for everyone, and yes the whole "use this shade for this, that shade for that, and this shade complements left handed people" is a bit of marketing fluff, but i disagree that its all completely snake oil.

 

[PT247]

Gotta be honest I think there's a ton of snake oil in most tinted lenses, certainly in promotional material for them.  You wanna see gear that works?  Look at international shooting competitors; 3-gun, Olympics, global military shooting competitions, heck special forces in theatre.  What I see them all wearing is clear lenses or shades... that's it in the vast majority of cases.  These are people who know infinitely more about these things than any of us and have the money and experience to buy and try every single option on the market then use all those options extensively.

If something works for you then use it, fire away, I'll never tell you not to. But personally I go clear if I'll be in the dark and regular darkened lenses for bright days, nothing more to it and most eye pro comes with both.

100% agree, all I have found with other colours is things look more yellow or darker. If I could get some faster response polarised lenses than I have then I would be inclined to use them more, but the ones I have are a little slow to transition in woodland