Have you ever had your day cut short due to other player's bad behaviour?

To make the marshals aware of players fails, and site owners aware of a marshalling fail.  How else are they going to know?

I mean, in principle.  In practice, I take your point that whatever you experience at a site is likely to be the rule rather than the exception.
You a reporter by any chance ? Seeing as you’ve taken that section out of the post and changes the whole context of it ? ?

As I said in the NEXT paragraph it’s not a case of speak to one then walk off in a huff , and then just jump straight on the Internet to complain . Unfortunately far too many sites are run like a private kingdom by the site owners and there team and you know it’s futile trying to resolve the problem .

 
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Who is this "celeb" that people keep talking about?


Theres two that i wont play against from personal experience but I'm not going to name and shame as its not constructive. People should just play and make their own minds up.

Ive spoken about them before but "airsoft celebs" annoy the shit out of me anyway as the majority are either dicks to play against or have no fucking clue what they are on about.

 
Theres two that i wont play against from personal experience but I'm not going to name and shame as its not constructive. People should just play and make their own minds up.

Ive spoken about them before but "airsoft celebs" annoy the shit out of me anyway as the majority are either dicks to play against or have no fucking clue what they are on about.


Fair enough.

I've yet to come across any "airsoft celebs" but I agree with you and to be honest I don't really care if someone has made a name for themselves in airsoft. As long as they don't have a massive ego and play by the rules then who really gives a sh*t? Same goes for any player really!

 
Fair enough.

I've yet to come across any "airsoft celebs" but I agree with you and to be honest I don't really care if someone has made a name for themselves in airsoft. As long as they don't have a massive ego and play by the rules then who really gives a sh*t? Same goes for any player really!


You'd like to think that's how it should be but alas egos and site owners bowing down to that doesn't make for conducive play

 
You'd like to think that's how it should be but alas egos and site owners bowing down to that doesn't make for conducive play


Like you I would vote with my wallet and go to a different site if certain players were receiving special treatment.

 
You'd like to think that's how it should be but alas egos and site owners bowing down to that doesn't make for conducive play
As soon as someone gets there face recognised from YouTube a LOT of site owners start fawning all over them hoping to get a good bit of PR for there site and BOOM ! They get away with what ever crap they like . ?

 
As soon as someone gets there face recognised from YouTube a LOT of site owners start fawning all over them hoping to get a good bit of PR for there site and BOOM ! They get away with what ever crap they like . ?




Oh I’m well aware, I almost had a BFG dropped out a window and land on my head because of a certain YouTuber throwing a strop he’d been cleared out of an upstairs room. Told Marshall’s... nothing done...”that doesn’t sound like something he would do” 

 
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Not had a game day called over grumpy folks but have a had a few games cut short as the marshaling team step in to reassert order.

Couple of examples and i think both in fairness were heat related.

Afternoon game not too long ago. Idea was a domination game running from lunch until day end. Theres firefights all over the place and suddenly all hell breaks loose. One side is trying to push in and take a base, the other is resisting heavily. Assault team is taking casualties, but instead of arm up and walk away. The dead are standing still, then being used as human shields by the remaining attackers. This of course results in the shield yelping about getting repeatedly shot, the defenders screaming for people to get out of the line of fire and take their hits. End result. Game called an hour early and a 10 minute cool off period put in place and some short games run instead. In fairness the site in question has a dog run set up and if you get out of hand your choice is a cool off in the cage or walk off site.

Just this last weekend i saw what was...well red mist and a well organized marshaling team.

Playing a 23v23 cqb battle. I am pushing one flank and my buddy is firing from behind some containers. A guy moves up towards him and they shoot each other. My buddy calls fair play 50/50. The other guy just flips and start stomping towards him yelling and screaming. Fortunately the marshals are on walkways above the scene and intervene quickly and push the guy away. My buddy was dumb founded. Game end the site owner comes on and gives a dressing down to everyone and warns everyone about unacceptable behaviour. That was followed up by one team being taken onto a seperate gamezone as they had the 'troublesome' players on board (mix of non hit takers and over shooters as well as gob runners).

 
Not had a game day called over grumpy folks but have a had a few games cut short as the marshaling team step in to reassert order.

Couple of examples and i think both in fairness were heat related.

Afternoon game not too long ago. Idea was a domination game running from lunch until day end. Theres firefights all over the place and suddenly all hell breaks loose. One side is trying to push in and take a base, the other is resisting heavily. Assault team is taking casualties, but instead of arm up and walk away. The dead are standing still, then being used as human shields by the remaining attackers. This of course results in the shield yelping about getting repeatedly shot, the defenders screaming for people to get out of the line of fire and take their hits. End result. Game called an hour early and a 10 minute cool off period put in place and some short games run instead. In fairness the site in question has a dog run set up and if you get out of hand your choice is a cool off in the cage or walk off site.

Just this last weekend i saw what was...well red mist and a well organized marshaling team.

Playing a 23v23 cqb battle. I am pushing one flank and my buddy is firing from behind some containers. A guy moves up towards him and they shoot each other. My buddy calls fair play 50/50. The other guy just flips and start stomping towards him yelling and screaming. Fortunately the marshals are on walkways above the scene and intervene quickly and push the guy away. My buddy was dumb founded. Game end the site owner comes on and gives a dressing down to everyone and warns everyone about unacceptable behaviour. That was followed up by one team being taken onto a seperate gamezone as they had the 'troublesome' players on board (mix of non hit takers and over shooters as well as gob runners).


Human shields now that is interesting... just makes me think of Gears of War lol.

Love that they had a seperate game for troublesome players!

 
Iv had run ins with players myself but never to that extreme, to be honest I like playing with new players more than regulars as they are easier to instruct and like to learn the layout of the place. when I comes to troublesome players my arguments have been with 2 groups : 

airsoft elitists - veterans of years of games who feel they are untouchable and pointing out the opposite triggers them more than no bread does to bacon sandwich lovers. when you see them getting hit on the rig or central mass and ignoring it because they dont want to look bad walking infront of there geardo mates back to spawn.

stag nighters - bain of my life.. I just cant do them lol  , rinse a whole squad of them and they all say I didnt see my mate get shot it didnt happen.. fucking airsoft turtles.

anyway I used to regularly argue with the 2 groups shown above, not to the point of the gameday being cancelled but I have walked off site at 1pm at multiple times due to shit player attitudes.

 
its sad some players get so grumpy when they have to call their hits. So many players seem to think it ok not to call their hits as they don't know that cheating is selfish. At times its frustrating you got hit walked to far back to respawn get back to the action and yes hit again before you managed to fire. Take it like a man its a game play nicely with the other children LOL.

 
its sad some players get so grumpy when they have to call their hits. So many players seem to think it ok not to call their hits as they don't know that cheating is selfish. At times its frustrating you got hit walked to far back to respawn get back to the action and yes hit again before you managed to fire. Take it like a man its a game play nicely with the other children LOL.




I always wonder about cheaters in airsoft. I mean if you want to run around shooting stuff and not getting shot at yourself that's fine, have at it, its why ipsc exists.

But if you want to play in an airsoft game with other players then part of it is you take hits, and its hypocritical to expect others to take hits if you dont take them yourself, its the old christian "do unto others" attitude (other religions are available).

I've seen games run on sites at the end of the day where it's a free for all with no need to take hits, basically a way of letting folk empty out mags, but after seeing 2 players drilling each other in the arms point blank and the blood literally streaming down their arms i was like "i'm out".

 
I always wonder about cheaters in airsoft. I mean if you want to run around shooting stuff and not getting shot at yourself that's fine, have at it, its why ipsc exists.

But if you want to play in an airsoft game with other players then part of it is you take hits, and its hypocritical to expect others to take hits if you dont take them yourself, its the old christian "do unto others" attitude (other religions are available).

I've seen games run on sites at the end of the day where it's a free for all with no need to take hits, basically a way of letting folk empty out mags, but after seeing 2 players drilling each other in the arms point blank and the blood literally streaming down their arms i was like "i'm out".
Yeah its like playing a sport without having a goal, it becomes pointless.

And those damn masochists making a fun game into creepy violence.

 
Yeah its like playing a sport without having a goal, it becomes pointless.


indeed, although i do think smart game design can alleviate a lot of problems, yes there are die hard cheats and there's nowt to do but ban 'em but if you make every game an unlimited re-spawn grind-fest sooner or later folk are gonna get bored of the stalemate and start looking for an edge.

And those damn masochists making a fun game into creepy violence.


it was scary, we're talking the barrel of a hot gun 6" from bare flesh scary, and the result was proper blood dripping down their arms levels of hurt.

whats worse is both of them could have just called it at any time, nobody was under pressure to take part, i'd given it a go but quickly backed out when i realized all it meant was getting full auto'd in every direction by a bunch of folk at once rather than a playful free-for-all deathmatch.

needless to say i don't play that site any more, although that game isn't the specific reason why (a multitude of reasons, from a cabal of hot guns who knew the owner to bad game design/marshalling, shame too the land was excellent)

 
Iv had run ins with players myself but never to that extreme, to be honest I like playing with new players more than regulars as they are easier to instruct and like to learn the layout of the place. when I comes to troublesome players my arguments have been with 2 groups : 

airsoft elitists - veterans of years of games who feel they are untouchable and pointing out the opposite triggers them more than no bread does to bacon sandwich lovers. when you see them getting hit on the rig or central mass and ignoring it because they dont want to look bad walking infront of there geardo mates back to spawn.

stag nighters - bain of my life.. I just cant do them lol  , rinse a whole squad of them and they all say I didnt see my mate get shot it didnt happen.. fucking airsoft turtles.

anyway I used to regularly argue with the 2 groups shown above, not to the point of the gameday being cancelled but I have walked off site at 1pm at multiple times due to shit player attitudes.
I've found a winning combination with stag do's when at a cqb site:

40mm grenade launchers and lots of spare shells.

 
I took the future father in law out for the day for a bit of male bonding, she organised a bbq for the same day, meaning we had to leave at lunch time. I wasn’t a happy bunny.

 
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