Gamesmanship?

[Musica]

Yea I can't say I really understand it. Might be salty he took some fire intended for me while I ran past him to the position I took but not sure.  If anything he was in my way to fire back and I had to get past him to engage. 

Doesn't seem like a honesty check because I can't think why he would do it with a knife. If I knew it was him to start with I wouldn't of started walking towards spawn because I'd of expected him to give a reason. Then to tell me to put my hand up because I'm dead because HE knifed me as the icing on the cake. I had already mentally accepted the death so wasn't really questioning why at the time. 

 

[Adolf Hamster]

I know why, its because.........

yeah, hard to argue with that logic right there.

 

[Slamz]

Did you grass the marshals to the site owner?

This is how sites get a bad reputation.  They should welcome being told.

Unfortunately the owner is as bad as the marshal's when it comes to things like this, they really don't care as long as people are paying. The 'regulars' quite often get away with doing whatever they like, such as never calling hits, and get away with it due to being pals, as Tackle also said.

It's why I don't go there anymore, especially as the South East has an abundance of much better sites.

 

[Tackle]

Unfortunately the owner is as bad as the marshal's when it comes to things like this, they really don't care as long as people are paying.

yeah he's a slimey fucker who will do anything for a pound note, such as his "junior ranger" days, or some other noncey name, essentially allowing playing parents to bring along kids that would be considered too young to play at other sites, but there they can learn to play the "apoc way", which translates to "be a cheatin Cnut & do what you like" lol ?

@Slamz, what kent sites are you finding any good at the minute ?

 

[Immortal]

Something else the Apoc site owner does is walk around trying to hard sell UKASA to punters saying it's the only one with insurance.

LOL :lol: That's what his public liability insurance is for!

And I hardly ever see a shop that asks for that as a way of buying rifs it at all– only UKARA.

I've had a few non hit takers there but if they're hit enough times everyone submits eventually....

I still prefer DogTag and that site owner IS a good bloke.

 

[EvilMonkee]

Its Apoc Airsoft where that twunt Licking Mustard plays? Happy to be wrong.

 

[Immortal]

Its Apoc Airsoft where that twunt Licking Mustard plays? Happy to be wrong.

Not sure, only played there twice so I couldn't say.... there was a leaf suit marching about which made his camo a little pointless but it wasn't him.

Same dirty tactics of headshots though. Hit me in the eye and a mate had a really nasty bleeder on his forehead.

 

[Rogerborg]

Really confuses me why he did it

The marshals there do attempt to keep games balanced, but that was a dick move.  Sorry that it happened.  You can talk to them in the safe zone afterwards though, they are sort of humans.

 

[Samurai]

Its Apoc Airsoft where that twunt Licking Mustard plays? Happy to be wrong.

This is not the forum to spread hate. This is a place to build the community.

 

[Adolf Hamster]

The marshals there do attempt to keep games balanced, but that was a dick move.  Sorry that it happened.  You can talk to them in the safe zone afterwards though, they are sort of humans.

surely balancing games is about ensuring you don't put all the rentals on one team?

not gonna lie don't like the idea of marshalls randomly becoming part of the game, honesty shots are one thing but forcing people out of play for no good reason isnt on.

 

[Resistor170]

surely balancing games is about ensuring you don't put all the rentals on one team?

not gonna lie don't like the idea of marshalls randomly becoming part of the game, honesty shots are one thing but forcing people out of play for no good reason isnt on.

Can't agree more. "you've got yourself in a really good position there, as a reward I'm going to penalise you". 

Let the other team lose and learn from it. I don't play because I want a really even game

 

[ImTriggerHappy]

surely balancing games is about ensuring you don't put all the rentals on one team?

not gonna lie don't like the idea of marshalls randomly becoming part of the game, honesty shots are one thing but forcing people out of play for no good reason isnt on.

Honesty shots suck in my opinion.

Better to have a couple of player marshals on each side. Players then know that the shot they choose to ignore might have consequences. 

Any shot testing can then be done within the normal game.

 

[EvilMonkee]

This is not the forum to spread hate. This is a place to build the community.

That's not spreading hate, that's stating a simple well-recognized oft-expressed fact

 

[Adolf Hamster]

Honesty shots suck in my opinion.

Better to have a couple of player marshals on each side. Players then know that the shot they choose to ignore might have consequences. 

Any shot testing can then be done within the normal game.

i don't mind the idea of honesty shots, as long as you're allowed to play on if you take it.

same as i'm not against spot chrono's, as an honest player i'd be glad to see them do it.

of course none of the sites round here bother with either.

 

[DopeYourScope]

Its Apoc Airsoft where that twunt Licking Mustard plays? Happy to be wrong.

He’s banned from there too, hot gun and not calling hits. The same story for most of the sites in the area regarding the bloke, same as Battle ponds... not spreading hate just making everyone aware.

 

[EvilMonkee]

He’s banned from there too, hot gun and not calling hits. The same story for most of the sites in the area regarding the bloke, same as Battle ponds... not spreading hate just making everyone aware.

Thank you for proving my point for me

 

[Musica]

surely balancing games is about ensuring you don't put all the rentals on one team?

not gonna lie don't like the idea of marshalls randomly becoming part of the game, honesty shots are one thing but forcing people out of play for no good reason isnt on.

I'l actually defend the site as a whole. They do balance the games live not just by head count/skill of players. They do all sorts like shouting out what stairwell a bunch of you are pushing up but equally they will tell your team to push an empty stairwell if your struggling. I've been on both ends of it pushed up a stairwell sneaky sneaky only for a a marshal to shout out to the enemy team were I am so I can't push further uncontested. Equally they gathered 90% of my team and sent us all up a stairwell and we just flattened the other teams defence. 

Had a marshal stop me and a few others from shooting at some guys who had got them selves pinned in to a corner to turn our backs for 30 seconds while they got out of their entrenched position.  They try to make sure everyone is having a good time. 

All I have is my side of the story he might have a  good reason maybe a BB meant for me hit him and thus it was unfair for the player who would of taken me out so instead of a painful shot at close he knifed me to save me a welt but even it up for the other side. Who knows it just seemed unusual reflecting on it so thought I'd get an opinions on it everyone seems to think it's not OK so I won't take it if it happens again and go above them to the scary yelling man who owns the site. 

 

[DopeYourScope]

Thank you for proving my point for me

Every site in the area I’ve been to he’s not welcome. I don’t blame them after hearing The BL story, however that’s one for the PMs if anyone’s interested. 

 

[Resistor170]

I think verbal advice can be OK if needed, then at least it is still down to the players to achieve it or try to. If I was pinned down and destined for death only for a Marshall to stop the enemy and let me change position then I wouldn't take it, I'd just claim a hit and/or walk off...that would ruin my experience. I'd want to see if I could take out one or two before I lose, the help really wouldn't sit right with me. 

Maybe it can depend on the game format itself and of course a lot of people who play, play for different reasons to me and would disagree. 

 

[Slamz]

@Slamz, what kent sites are you finding any good at the minute ?

I've found Invicta to be pretty good, better run for sure but unfortunately not as big and varied as Apoc. 

Not Kent but I'm a fan of Airsoft Plantation in Essex, big site, very well run, Marshall's push the game along too so it's never stale. Well worth the extra drive. 

Hopefully trying Doomsday soon too.

You?