G&G VSS!!!

[TacMaster]

I've got a couple of G&G made 120 round midcaps, their own version of the Pmag:

 

[Ian_Gere]

This and a mg34 is all my want

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See now that just shows a lack of ambition!

What about an MG42 for comparison? And MP40 and MP44 to have loadout options...

PPSh41 for coolsies. AN-94 just because and a Bizon for when you've got arm ache. Oh and let's not forget the humble Pistola Makarova!

Bren gun, GPMG, L86A2, working L1A1

HK417...? Certainly a USP .45 Match, how about Beretta CX4 Storm?

 

[TacMaster]

PPSh41

Bizon

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PPSH41- seems well received by buyers, and even if one someone buys is a lemon it has an M14 gearbox so there's a decent amount of spares.

Bizon- I know a guy who has one, very nice piece of kit

What's stopping you Ian?

Well they are both more expensive than Gen 3 G&G rifles...so yeah

 

[Ian_Gere]

What else... Money!

 

[Ian_Gere]

Does anybody know anything about S&T's VSS?

There's apparently also a VAL version:​

Personally, I can't even figure out how to buy anything from them :lol: Maybe they've gone bust? I've emailed 'em via their contact form, so we shall see.

 

[M_P]

Most likely a clone of sorts- possibly a clone of the king arms one

 

[TacMaster]

As well as their crap internals, S&T come out with some REAL abominations- this for example!

Not that I hold it against them, everybody needs to be disgusted every once in a while

 

[M_P]

I think the AR-57 is pretty awesome, it's not the best looking gun but it's cool as hell.

 

[Unrustle_Thine_Jimmies]

S&T VSS is their own design,as you can probably tell,the S&T VSS is sort of...wrong looking,such as the receiver cover not being stamped properly,receiver being too thick,stock is utterly wrong and among other things,they proper fire selection method is not replicated.

Then again,that does not really matter to the average nob, I expect waves of ''gawt ess and tee vee ess ess,how mak rushin dmr lodout?'' posts.

Echo1 re-branded the S&T as the ''IGOR''(Cringe) and they are selling it as part of the red star line.

I'd say there is no reason to get the S&T. The King Arms one is roughly the same price,has proper proportions and replications and seems to be build better. Not a fan of thee wood on the KA though.

Here's a comparison of the LCT VAL,King arms VSS, and S&T VSS.

Mainly showing for receiver dimensions. Don't really want to show the G&G since that one looks far too unfinished.

KA

LCT

S&T

Vidyaz.

KA

 

[Ian_Gere]

OK, well that idea went the way of the square wheel...

I was also looking at this Russian tuned one. Which looks very nice: steel and plywood goodness :wub: but is simply a V3 gearbox, not that orgasmatron that G&G are using - and it's £500 basic / £650 with the PSO scope and tune up.

I notice that the stock on this one appears to be more horizontal than the KA one, closer to the S&T I'd say :blink:​