FOGGING - PLEASE HELP

[Rowed]

Wow that's lucky , iv sent a few emails out to get a price posted to the uk I think they come with a good Warrenty on them anyway which we covered the foam however I could be wrong and if you brought them second hand this would not apply yer they come with a cleaning cloth anyway don't they and a cover how do you regulate the fan do you have it on when you need it .. Run with it on low all the time then turn it up when you need it ... ?? Mesh is a total no go for me I'm affraid ess turbo fans it is ha ... Also seen a few people commenting on removing the top part of the foam padding just to clear it that extra bit more

 

[Lozart]

Don't think you'll find the warranty covers the foam. I enquired and they wouldn't sell the new foam surround as a spare part either.

 

[Rowed]

Arh thats a bitch how do you control the fan then have it on per mentally orrr?

 

[Lozart]

Arh thats a bitch how do you control the fan then have it on per mentally orrr?

There's a control on the battery holder. Off, low speed and high speed. I usually have it on full chat because it doesn't actually take much power and makes minimal noise.

 

[BrightCandle]

I had a similar problem when I started. I had a pair of Bolle Raiders that while sealing fully fogged really very fast and I sweat really impressively! I tried a variety of things and in the end decided I was just going to try the turbo fan solution.

I looked into all the different options and I decided to go with the Revision Desert Locusts because they were lower profile than the ESS ones and the reliability of the others seemed to be quite questionable. I haven't been sorry. The noise isn't a problem in anywhere but in the Bunker in South london as the fan is quite quiet and people don't notice when stood next to you in the woodland. They are expensive but it stars to solve the fundamental problem of trapped hot humid air from your face and cooler air on the outside which is what causes the fogging, no magic spray can fix that fundamental problem yet its just physics. The Revisions also have an optional thermal lense solution that you will want to get and you will also want the Revision anti fog wipes. You can still overpower the fans ability to clear the goggles and the wipe will help bridge the gap and you'll use one for a game day.

I am not saying the turbofan solution is 100% perfect, nothing can be but there isn't anything that handles it better and ensures no BBs or fragments make it to your eyes.

 

[Rowed]

I didn't think revision done a turbo fan model ??

 

[Rowed]

Wait sorry done some searching your advise has really helped iv just watched this video which I think include the thermal lens you were talking about ,

 

[Rowed]

Iv just specked up a set with the thermal lens wipes , and cleaner 168£ delivered.

 

[K@rl]

Wear mesh. £20 tops. Lol

 

[jay83]

Best glasses ive used and cheap.

http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/products/6899632/?grossPrice=Y&cm_mmc=UK-PLA-_-google-_-Global+Top+50k+Products-_-Global+Top+50k+Products&mkwid=sBlt5VtmI_dc|pcrid|64872702003|pkw||pmt||prd|6899632&gclid=CMzowZTH8cgCFRATGwod3IML0A

always keep set mesh on me tho jus in case

 

[Ian_Gere]

^^Yeah, the anti-fog coating of the newer generation of Bollé goggles does work very well at preventing fog build up, but the moisture in the air behind them doesn't go away - my Bollé Rush rain out to the point of being unusable in between 25-35mins, but the problem of distorted vision begins much sooner: 10-15mins. It's a real ball ache because they would be exceptionally good otherwise - they fit my head shape almost perfectly; the seal between the lens edges and my face is very good; the shape combines well with lower face masks; they are very light and comfortable; although the polycarbonate they are made from is particularly shiny, the lens shape produces very few internal reflections; and they're very cheap too - if only they made something very similar with a fan!

 

[Rowed]

Iv bitten the bullet and gone for a set of revision desert fan goggles with thermal lens

 

[K@rl]

How loud are the fans?

 

[kriegar]

ok mad question but do you think the desert locus set up would be sufficient to keep both a pair of glasses (if they would fit under the goggles) and it's own lenses fog free?

 

[Lozart]

ok mad question but do you think the desert locus set up would be sufficient to keep both a pair of glasses (if they would fit under the goggles) and it's own lenses fog free?

I doubt they'll fit under the goggles. The desert locust is quite low profile.

 

[Rowed]

I think they do prescription lens inserts rx inserts I think there called and the fans iv Hurd are quiter than the ESS fans but there is another make which are even quiter but I can't remember the make now but they don't accommodate for there own makes thermal lens

 

[Ian_Gere]

And even if they did, no, I doubt that the fan would keep the glasses lenses fog free until the glasses had warmed up so that the lenses were at the same temp or warmer than the moisture laden air around them, which could take some considerable length of time because air is not known for its ability to pass on heat, quite the opposite in fact. If you could warm the glasses up prior to putting them inside the goggles it would probably work though - maybe keeping them in a pocket with 4 chemical hand warmers, 1 on each side of each lens...

 

[Lozart]

I think they do prescription lens inserts rx inserts I think there called and the fans iv Hurd are quiter than the ESS fans but there is another make which are even quiter but I can't remember the make now but they don't accommodate for there own makes thermal lens

Seriously, the ESS fans are barely audible even flat out.

 

[kriegar]

Well i've just found a review on a website called military moron:

http://www.militarymorons.com/equipment/eyewear.html

Judging by their description of the goggles they didn't have the fan installed "but in my opinion, it's not 'forced air' unless there's an active circulation system like a fan"

"The anti-fogging coating on the lens seemed to work quite well. When worn with a helmet, air cannot flow through as well because the top vents are right up against the brim of the helmet. My uncoated prescription inserts fogged up partially until the temperature stabilized, but the inside of the main lens never did."

So judging by this review it seems likely that this might be the solution i'm looking for but i'll need some serious thought before laying out that much cash to replace the mesh goggles i already use.

 

[jcheeseright]

You'll really struggle to fit glasses underneath, prescription inserts however should be fine. The key to avoiding/minimising fogging is simple physics; moisture condenses on cold things. If your lenses are warm then less moisture will condense on them in the first place and the anti-fog coating won't have to work so hard. Put your eyepro on at the start of the day and KEEP IT ON, even the radiated heat from your face makes a difference.

Beyond that, a fan assist to keep the humidity down inside your goggles and some good detergent (that's all anti-fog spray is) on the lenses will bridge the gap. ESS turbofans are what I personally use for indoor/close quarters stuff where I want a full seal and massive coverage. For outdoor/woodland/etc stuff I use ESS Crossbow glasses or Oakley sunglasses, depending on how sunny it is!