Difference in the two snipers

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You're welcome. Don't take my word for it though (or any single thread for that matter) - I don't own a VSR-10 and have certainly not worked on one either. Some further intense Googling sessions may be best (and the airsoft sniper forums are brilliantly in-depth when it comes to these things). You're lucky - the TM VSR-10 is very, very well documented. Perhaps only second most owned to the Maruzen APS-2 builds.

 

[Bullet]

Hi.

Please, please, please get the jg. The TM version is I waste of money! Period! The only part which is better are the sling mounts. They are very cheap if you are desperate.

Is difficult to quickly explain here as there is a ton of information on why, but I suggest you google the airsoft sniper forum and read the stickies on there before you dive in. There is tons of very scientific reasoning behind what mods etc to do and what not to do (I.e. don't get a 6.01 barrel)

I know my way around the vsr platforms pretty well after years of stripping it down and fettling it so feel free to pm me if you need a hand

Bullet

 

[sp00n]

Hi.

Please, please, please get the jg. The TM version is I waste of money! Period! The only part which is better are the sling mounts. They are very cheap if you are desperate.

Is difficult to quickly explain here as there is a ton of information on why, but I suggest you google the airsoft sniper forum and read the stickies on there before you dive in. There is tons of very scientific reasoning behind what mods etc to do and what not to do (I.e. don't get a 6.01 barrel)

I know my way around the vsr platforms pretty well after years of stripping it down and fettling it so feel free to pm me if you need a hand

Bullet

but its TM, so use able out of the box... and that hop .... i hear they soak it in the blood of rocking horses or maybe sprinkle unicorn horn on it either way its good B)

 

[Airsoft_Mr B]

Upgrades for sniper rifles are almost always a necessity and are always expensive. Many serious snipers will spend at least £400-600+

The JG will need more whereas the TM is arguably gonna be pretty decent out of the box, it will still need upgrades but necessarily as many. Without upgrades you're looking at performance about on par with a standard AEG in terms of accuracy and range except you're limited for obvious reasons especially mag capacity and ROF.

You need to look at the quality more expensive parts as well so you know you are gonna get the durability, consistency and actual range / accuracy upgrades you need; a brand like Action Army won't be the best

Btw the rifle (JG) is so cheap because it's from Poland (but only another £10 for shipping) I'm not sure any other comments mentioned it tbh sorry if I missed it

 

[Snakeeyes75]

What the hell's been going on?? lol.. Mate, the TM is by far a better option than most clones FACT! I've now worked on several JG Bar 10's etc mainly because I have friends that have used my Gspec and want the same result but without paying out. There's tiny differences which can all be rectified but the TM is by far the easiest to work on! HOWEVER.... The Bar 10 is cheaper and by the end of the upgrade process you won't see any difference between the two guns.

For 450 fps you'll get away with a spring/guide/sear upgrade and using the TM hop which is a very nice bit of kit you just need to swap the arm for a type B to lift heavier weight BB's (Or try the biro hop mod on the original arm). That'll give you a perfect working gun. (Also worth PTFE taping the hop rubber and cylinder head).

The ONLY issue that puts people off is that the newer Gspecs come stock with a crimped cylinder which cannot be opened to remove the spring and there's no external giveaway that you're getting the old or the new! Easiest option is to put a new cylinder & head in BUT then you fall into the problem of needing a 90 degree trigger. This is where ASPUK came in handy as they're so much cheaper than Laylax. It's going to come down to how much you want to spend? Way I see it is that if you spend the money now you won't need to spend it later! You can swap springs out between games to achieve different power outputs.

ALSO..... Don't waste your time with TBB! use .43's and you'll be hitting most things at 80+ meters anyway. The standard Gspec barrel is perfect, I thought of putting a longer barrel in but it's more to do with joule creep than accuracy.

 

[UK SQUADDIE]

Many thanks to all for the comment, there's a mix ratio of likes and dislike for both so am 50/50 again.

What are the legal rights to importing an airsoft rifle from Poland or another foreign country, am sure someone will get alittle hard on when they see a rifle get put through a scanner.

 

[Snakeeyes75]

Many thanks to all for the comment, there's a mix ratio of likes and dislike for both so am 50/50 again.

What are the legal rights to importing an airsoft rifle from Poland or another foreign country, am sure someone will get alittle hard on when they see a rifle get put through a scanner.

If you have your UKARA number on the front then it shouldn't be a problem. I know a fair few people that use Taiwan gun and never had issues bringing it in the country.

 

[PT247]

I have recently got myself a TM G-Spec, cracking lil gun out the box and was firing at 310fps. I've pretty much gone the full Laylax upgrade route for the trigger/piston as the parts are all compatible. Am leaving the TM hop unit but will be modding it, I have ordered a type B hop arm though. I'm running mine at 350fps so I don't have an MED and currently is more accurate than any of my AEGs or gas guns and possibly has the edge on range too. Am happy with my fps so am now just working on improving the accuracy which will be tough as it is pretty damn good as is!

 

[UK SQUADDIE]

Happy days, so long as it's on the address side up, should be ok, thanks for that, am happy to spend money on a snipe as I'll buy it all but drawn to the TM VSR-10 and Bar-10 £100 cheaper is the bar which means an extra £100 for mods, am drawn to TM more for reliability and good build quality

 

[Unrustle_Thine_Jimmies]

Hi.

Please, please, please get the jg. The TM version is I waste of money! Period! The only part which is better are the sling mounts. They are very cheap if you are desperate.

Is difficult to quickly explain here as there is a ton of information on why, but I suggest you google the airsoft sniper forum and read the stickies on there before you dive in. There is tons of very scientific reasoning behind what mods etc to do and what not to do (I.e. don't get a 6.01 barrel)

I know my way around the vsr platforms pretty well after years of stripping it down and fettling it so feel free to pm me if you need a hand

Bullet

TM Sling mounts are awful too. The screw is made of steel,but the rest is made of extremely flimsy zinc. Screwing them into the stock usually strips the stock threads and mine broke pretty quickly.

TM's stock hop is cast better,so the arm doesn't move around much,but the adjustment mech design still applies uneven pressure no matter who makes it. TM has a very good hop up rubber,and screws are better quality.

The newer TM VSRs have crimped cylinders so they're a PITA to upgrade since you need to buy a new cylinder,head and guts too which can add up to 100 pounds more in upgrade expenses. That's the JG's main pro now.

 

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I don't think there's much disagreement here at all. If you're replacing everything (and I mean everything) then the BAR-10 will save you money and the external finish is slightly nicer.

If you're looking to keep it stock then TM is always the better option (but you're not). As far as I know, no one has said otherwise.