Competitive Airsoft

[MisterG]

I've got nothing against this.  But age and fitness probably means it's not for me.

Twenty years ago I would have probably given it a go.

Cheers

G

 

[ACA]

I've got nothing against this.  But age and fitness probably means it's not for me.

Twenty years ago I would have probably given it a go.

Cheers

G

I guess it depends on your style of gameplay, nothing can be discounted at this stage.

 

[proffrink]

Facebook groups, addicts, comrades,  UKAC, pew pew and lots more places where you will get a more balanced answer than on here.

This place just likes to spew lack of understanding and hate lately which is far worse for airsoft than and speedsofting hpa using trigger spammer will ever be.

I've seen a couple of dismissive posts but most seem reasonable (albeit highly personal) opinions on the OP.

Any any case there is certainly a fair imbalance on here, @ACA and you will almost certainly get more actionable information on various FB groups when it comes to this specific topic.

 

[ACA]

I've seen a couple of dismissive posts but most seem reasonable (albeit highly personal) opinions on the OP.

Any any case there is certainly a fair imbalance on here, @ACA and you will almost certainly get more actionable information on various FB groups when it comes to this specific topic.

Any response is good. It shows people actually care enough to comment even if it is only after someone raises the point. Rather than raising the point themselves they will sit and stir in their own disgruntled feeling spouting how crap someone or something is to anyone that will listen which is no good in any way shape or form for Airsoft.

 

[Albiscuit]

I would echo the comment above about a level playing field. I suppose what I dont like about the idea of competitive arisoft is people paying for an advantage through better/quickers guns, system set ups etc. If everyone had the same gun, mags and number of bbs or at leat had to have a similar set up then it would allow people to compete on skill rather than who can shoot the quickest/furthest/fastest which speedsoft to me seems to be about.

I suppose I personally see airsoft as fun and enjoy the tactical element. Quick games of chucking 1000s of bbs around do not appeal to me, a few well placed shots and move on. 

 

[Tiercel]

Despite the fact that unless I knew this guy I wouldn't be using his pic to cast such aspersions. Your comments are funny and hopefully meant that way  

The fact my post was dripping with hyperbole should have made that obvious I'd have hoped  

 

[Rogerborg]

Constructively, if I were playing competitively in an arena, I reckon I'd be happy keeping it small and simple and intense, and crammed with cover.  More gun, less run. 

I'd want an experience that's distinct from woodland (or large indoor CQB) as possible.

As to how to promote it, phew, that's a tough one.  Sure, "Facebook", but that means manually pushing it to every site, regional and player group that you can find, or paying for ads and hoping that Facebook will target them effectively.  If there's an easy and free way to target all UK airsoft players, I can't think of it.

 

[ACA]

The fact my post was dripping with hyperbole should have made that obvious I'd have hoped  

Should have.

Constructively, if I were playing competitively in an arena, I reckon I'd be happy keeping it small and simple and intense, and crammed with cover.  More gun, less run. 

I'd want an experience that's distinct from woodland (or large indoor CQB) as possible.

As to how to promote it, phew, that's a tough one.  Sure, "Facebook", but that means manually pushing it to every site, regional and player group that you can find, or paying for ads and hoping that Facebook will target them effectively.  If there's an easy and free way to target all UK airsoft players, I can't think of it.

That's a great response I like your thinking on the game side of things. Social media and online editorial?

 

[ImTriggerHappy]

I would echo the comment above about a level playing field. I suppose what I dont like about the idea of competitive arisoft is people paying for an advantage through better/quickers guns, system set ups etc. If everyone had the same gun, mags and number of bbs or at leat had to have a similar set up then it would allow people to compete on skill rather than who can shoot the quickest/furthest/fastest which speedsoft to me seems to be about.

I suppose I personally see airsoft as fun and enjoy the tactical element. Quick games of chucking 1000s of bbs around do not appeal to me, a few well placed shots and move on. 

Airsoft is already like that my guns fire ridiculously quick on single and I often get accused of full auto. My current project the trigger is so twitchy it has fired from me putting it down too hard.

 

[Aengus]

Got any more info on that?  It might help the OP.

https://www.facebook.com/speedqbuk/ appears to be a damp squib (if it's not, they're hiding it well) and their website is perpetually coming soon (or come and gone).

The arena stuff looks like fun, to be fair.  Geezers crawling through bushes complaining about our bum knees don't have a monopoly on pewing. [UPDATE] Jinx!  Did we find that video at the same time?

haha speedqb uk there's a story. Suffice to say its not longer a thing. There's a more grassroots tournament being ran by opspeed and legion right now (yes it paintbally, no that is not the be all end all)https://www.facebook.com/OpSpeed-Airsoft-Tournaments-421137991707955/?fb_dtsg_ag=Adx2BAS71zp8bRX1THroRTxQfdN67moo_70cH69mI4nY8Q%3AAdwp_IRaTHiIVp8E6Nrb-GAbb0IAAj4K6FhgaUMbZndgbg. But hey its a start

I just do not see the point. 

There is no skill, its who can run and spam the trigger at the same time.

I can see the point in a competitive style game for small squad based games. ie Who can take the village, or capture the VIP the quickest with the least casualties using the least ammo or stealthy style gameplay etc.. 

Oh boy. Don't get me started.

Lazy excuse a surprising amount of people take.

 

[Druid799]

There is no skill, its who can run and spam the trigger at the same time.. 

Unfortunately as dismissive as this may seem to some after spending an hr or so watching YouTube’s of competition Airsofting I do have to say it’s not far off the mark (hence my comment earlier about a level playing field) you watch any clips and you’ll see textbook examples of spamming the trigger , some of the clips there trigger hands are barely even touching the pistol grip ! 

And the old nutshell of ‘oh it’s an ultra high rate of fire set up and a super sensitive trigger !’ Sorry just a cop out so you can get round the no auto semi only rule . You can spout off about ‘trigger response’ as much as you like , the hundredths of a second it’ll shave off your shooting times will make bollox all difference to weather you hit the target or not at the ranges we shoot at , it your physical response time to seeing the target getting on target and pulling the trigger that decides wether you hit first not the speed the trigger responds to you pulling it . 

 

[Rogerborg]

Sure, if it takes off, it'll be a game dominated by hair-trigger HPAs and DSGs capable of producing an insane RoF.

One way to mitigate that might be to just allow full auto, with a RoF limit.

 

[Albiscuit]

Unfortunately as dismissive as this may seem to some after spending an hr or so watching YouTube’s of competition Airsofting I do have to say it’s not far off the mark (hence my comment earlier about a level playing field) you watch any clips and you’ll see textbook examples of spamming the trigger , some of the clips there trigger hands are barely even touching the pistol grip ! 

And the old nutshell of ‘oh it’s an ultra high rate of fire set up and a super sensitive trigger !’ Sorry just a cop out so you can get round the no auto semi only rule . You can spout off about ‘trigger response’ as much as you like , the hundredths of a second it’ll shave off your shooting times will make bollox all difference to weather you hit the target or not at the ranges we shoot at , it your physical response time to seeing the target getting on target and pulling the trigger that decides wether you hit first not the speed the trigger responds to you pulling it . 

Ok point taken, I was too quick to post my comment without justification.

I did type a LONNNNG ass reply but I think I will just get dragged around in circles on this thread so will simply put that this form of competitive airsoft is not something I care for so will no longer contribute to the thread!!

 

[Druid799]

Ok point taken, I was too quick to post my comment without justification.

I did type a LONNNNG ass reply but I think I will just get dragged around in circles on this thread so will simply put that this form of competitive airsoft is not something I care for so will no longer contribute to the thread!!

Wasn’t having a dig mate I actually agree with you ! I was just commenting that more than a few WOULD see it that way hence I put ‘it may seem dismissive’ when I don’t think it was bud .

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[Nick G]

Personally I would enjoy a 'Targets' game against the clock, you know , where you have to clear a building or a street in which targets pop up. Points for hitting the bad guys and points off for hitting civilians. Limit it to semi only, maybe just pistols and shotties. It could be played singly or as a team .That would be fun and competitive , normal speedsoft not for me, it just doesn't appeal .Good luck whatever direction you take it.

 

[Guest]

Personally I would enjoy a 'Targets' game against the clock, you know , where you have to clear a building or a street in which targets pop up. Points for hitting the bad guys and points off for hitting civilians. Limit it to semi only, maybe just pistols and shotties. It could be played singly or as a team .That would be fun and competitive , normal speedsoft not for me, it just doesn't appeal .Good luck whatever direction you take it.

I play variations on this theme most Tuesdays, it’s generally called Practical Pistol/Rifle etc

 

[Druid799]

I play variations on this theme most Tuesdays, it’s generally called Practical Pistol/Rifle etc

I do like practical pistol/rifle shoots but I don’t like the 3-gun comp ones , those I feel the speed you do it in is more important than anything else , you’ve usually got large static targets that you can see all of from the get go and it’s just go as fast as you can with the three guns to hit the targets , no judgment needed just bang bang bang finish ! Me personally I much prefer something where you have a split second to decide “do I fire or not ?” .

 

[jcheeseright]

as soon as 'winning' matters, hit taking doesn't. 

Competition paintball events have a staggeringly high marshallayer ratio because cheating is so rife, imagine what that would look like in airsoft where there's no mark. 

 

[ImTriggerHappy]

as soon as 'winning' matters, hit taking doesn't. 

Competition paintball events have a staggeringly high marshallayer ratio because cheating is so rife, imagine what that would look like in airsoft where there's no mark. 

That was a point I made to one of the people involved. I think the general idea if it takes off is all players and teams to be registered and cheating will be rewarded by disqualification and even outright bans. The honour side is a big thing to the guys involved.

 

[Rogerborg]

cheating will be rewarded by disqualification and even outright bans.

That's the stick, but I'd strongly advocate for having a carrot of a fair play award as well, based on teams rating each other on hit taking, not overkilling, and avoiding dickishness.

Training day.  Note the hair trigger HPA which rather makes a mockery of it being semi-auto.