CoD Hit-Markers in Game Videos Are The Same as Hit Calling Which is as Bad As Non-Hit Taking

[Groot]

The title makes less sense than I do after a few tequilas but someone has already beat me to posting a video of Sir Cuntly and his magic sniper hits. The only airsoft player who seems to have an infinite range, perfect accuracy sniper rifle, not affected by environment or weather. 

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[Tackle]

The title makes less sense than I do after a few tequilas but someone has already beat me to posting a video of Sir Cuntly and his magic sniper hits. The only airsoft player who seems to have an infinite range, perfect accuracy sniper rifle, not affected by environment or weather. 

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Its not helped if players don't follow the "country code" ?

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[Adolf Hamster]

Master Race snipers can tell that their BB really hit the target even when you can clearly see it swerving off into the wide blue yonder.

that's true.

on the one hand, they are just responding to the audience, sadly "airsoft fights and flipouts compilation #420; cheetar shot in the ballz with crazy 500fps sniper (instant karma) (super painful) (he regretted it)" is gonna get you more views than "yeah went and played airsoft, it was fun playing but the footage doesn't really show it that well". it's drama dressed up as actual gameplay.

seems to be a human thing, i mean if you look at regular television we could put anything on there and yet we so often choose to have violence and murder.

 

[Rogerborg]

it's drama dressed up as actual gameplay

True, but that's exactly the problem: too many folk on site on most days who aren't really there to play airsoft to the same set of common trust and respect based rules as the rest of us.

And it becomes more of a problem when they publicise and encourage that behaviour.

I'm both glad and sad to see more sites starting to take a dimmer view of filming.  The turds have fouled that punch bowl for everybody.

 

[Adolf Hamster]

True, but that's exactly the problem: too many folk on site on most days who aren't really there to play airsoft to the same set of common trust and respect based rules as the rest of us.

it's a vicious cycle. they start out just uploading normal gameplay videos, at some point they encounter some natural conflict and upload it, video goes big, they see that ad money roll in and want more, so they start seeking out, or generating conflict to keep the clickbait rolling.

And it becomes more of a problem when they publicise and encourage that behaviour.

that's a tricky one, for sure the game has that behavior occurring naturally, just part of it being a sport played by humans, certainly it doesn't make for good pr making it seem more common than it is.

one thing i don't like is the whole business of promoting the use of pain as some sort of macho proving/karma delivery system, the idea that intentionally trying to hurt people more than necessary is an acceptable practice. yes bb hits will sting, it is an unavoidable side effect of having pews with a usable effective range, but that doesn't mean it's some kind of character flaw to dislike it and not want people intentionally aiming for sensitive areas or sending excessive amounts of plastic in the name of "correcting" some perceived injustice.

 

[Cr0-Magnon]

I concur but the long and the short of it is there's not one big airsoft youtuber, who doesn't use clickbait titles and at least a big dollop of manufactured drama.

 

[Chicken pie]

Right as a middle aged person can I just clarify. Some one shouting out take your hit is as bad as no hit takers yes? I would say it's worse as its much more common than non hit taking and can ruin a game atmosphere as the belief that the other team are not taking their hits can spread quickly. 

As another middle ager I've found the opposite since switching to sniping ( least when my legs tell me I have to) and filming.

I probably " call out " take your hit about once a month and then it's got to be very obvious. 

My filming shows more non hit taking than I expected. 

But that I think is sometimes as the target can't work out who shot them or from where, so they conclude it was something else that hit them?

I found best solution is to just keep shooting them, eventually message gets through !

 

[Lozart]

I'll just leave this here

 

[Rogerborg]

for sure the game has that behavior occurring naturally

To clarify, the behaviour I'm referring to is anyone who's on site, ostensibly as a player, but who's not primarily interested in playing the game.  That applies to any sort of clickbait merchant or Instafluencer, and people who are there to make hits but not take them.  The likes of Licking Mustard ticks all those boxes at once, and I wish they'd find different things to do on a weekend and leave the rest of us to trade hits fairly and say "Jolly well done, old sport" (or similar friendly ejaculations) to each other.

 

[SBoardley]

I concur but the long and the short of it is there's not one big airsoft youtuber, who doesn't use clickbait titles and at least a big dollop of manufactured drama.

This thread is clickbait. 

 

[Lozart]

This thread is clickbait. 

You're clickbait and so's yer mum!

 

[SBoardley]

You're clickbait and so's yer mum!

That’s not what your missus said…

 

[MAX DICKER]

Maybe sites could update their waivers to include a clause stating that players (youtubers) are welcome to film and upload their game footage ONLY if its not monetized?

 

[Cannonfodder]

I don't like the goontubers carrying more cameras than a TV outside broadcast crew, so I don't watch their crappy videos

Maybe sites could update their waivers to include a clause stating that players (youtubers) are welcome to film and upload their game footage ONLY if its not monetized?

Personally I'd rather they just didn't allow filming at all. Unfortunately this results in all the whinny idiots making unfounded accusations of the site allowing players to cheat

 

[Rogerborg]

Maybe sites could update their waivers to include a clause stating that players (youtubers) are welcome to film and upload their game footage ONLY if its not monetized?

Area-66 are meandering in that direction by asking people to show them "OMG cheetar cot" videos before publishing them.  Ultimately their sanction is to tell clickbait drama llamas to not bother coming back, but as always with airsoft "rules", it's all down to enforcement of that, rather than "why I oughta" fist-shaking rhetoric.

 

[MAX DICKER]

How I see it is this way, airsoft sites are there to A: Make money, B: provide people with a fun environment to pew

They are not there to provide an income stream for any old yahoo to rock up, film, then edit the footage in a way that can potentially cast the site in a bad light (deservedly or not).

I'm all for people being allowed to film, and with the size and quality of cameras now, a ban is unenforceable. But with such a signed waiver on file, a site owner might at least discourage the click bait merchants and possibly give them good grounds to have videos taken down.