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Can Airsoft translate to real firearm skill?

E21A said:
That’s not the point though, it’s can it be useful for real steel shooters to train with airsoft. The answer is yes. That’s what the video is about. 

There is no harm in using real steel drills in airsoft, even if it’s only to speed up mag reloads or transition to and from sidearm 
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 Possibly on building muscle memory you have a fair point. Still struggling with the who gives a toss as this is England so who is ever really going to need those skills.  

Probably just me being a bit a salty after having to deal with the delusional wannabes after all these years ?

Funny thing is the guys I know would grab an aeg and a high cap over gas blowback and low caps everytime.

 
ImTriggerHappy said:
 Possibly on building muscle memory you have a fair point. Still struggling with the who gives a toss as this is England so who is ever really going to need those skills.  

Probably just me being a bit a salty after having to deal with the delusional wannabes after all these years ?

Funny thing is the guys I know would grab an aeg and a high cap over gas blowback and low caps everytime.
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Yea, it’s more for speed advantage in airsoft. CQB in particular perhaps switching between main/side would be useful. 

Agreed delusional wannabes are an issue, there’s a balance to be found which most would miss! 

All comes down to how you enjoy our enjoy playing the game at the end of the day. 

 
E21A said:
Yea, it’s more for speed advantage in airsoft. CQB in particular perhaps switching between main/side would be useful. 

Agreed delusional wannabes are an issue, there’s a balance to be found which most would miss! 

All comes down to how you enjoy our enjoy playing the game at the end of the day. 
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 Cqb is my favourite game and not to sound big headed but I more than held my own and never once drilled or practiced in my house or anywhere. Just went played and laughed as surely that is what it is about?

 
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ImTriggerHappy said:
 Cqb is my favourite game I not to sound big headed but I more than held my own and never once drilled or practiced in my house or anywhere. Just went played and laughed as surely that is what it is about?
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Oh I don’t believe it’s necessary at all. Doesn’t mean it won’t or can’t help. Also doesn’t mean people won’t enjoying doing it. We’re all running around playing with toy guns at the end of the day ?

 
I suspect any potential training value to airsoft is going to be less about marksmanship or weapon manipulation and more things like teamwork, squad tactics, and especially cqb as a way to polish skills that are already present rather than develop them from scratch.

For example how easy it is to lose situational awareness when things start kicking off, or concealement training for example would be a valid and transferable skill.

One danger, and it was raised in the last thread we had on this topic, is using airsoft to train weapon manipulation can lead to bad practice, like for example never using the safety (because nobody's gonna die (yes i admit to this, hell one of my guns doesnt even have a safety)) or expecting to be able to make rapid follow up when there's no recoil (another one i'll admit to)

There's also the issue that some tactics in airsoft exist purely as a result of the safe environment, ive seen (and occasionally partaken in) charges that would be straight up suicide in a real fight but a 2 minute walk to respawn is a hell of an easier punishment than eternity in a box.

For sure i dont think 10 years experience pewing is any replacement for actual training, but i suppose its possibly better than nothing.

 
Unless your doing it day in day out for hrs on end me personally I don’t think you’ll get THAT MUCH of an improvement in your skills with training , but then again any improvement is better than nothing ? 

 
Druid799 said:
Unless your doing it day in day out for hrs on end me personally I don’t think you’ll get THAT MUCH of an improvement in your skills with training , but then again any improvement is better than nothing ? 
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 Fuck that I am naturally gifted ?

 
Can Airsoft translate to real firearm skill?

noun 1. the ability to do something well;

In that case, I would say yes - although mainly applying to use of GBB rifles and pistols.
When I first shot with real guns, my sole experience of any kind of weapons was airsoft.
Poland being the wonderfully laid back country it is, the safety briefing was minimal, we were given glocks, magazines and rounds and left to get on with things.
Instructor came back a while later and asked how long I'd been shooting - he was very surprised to find out it was my first time.
The only way, I suppose to find out if the question is true would be to take a number of non airsofters with no RS experience and the same number of airsofters without RS experience.
Then put them through a basic course and see who performs better at the end...
 

 
Who practices Airsoft drills?

I do.

action air pistol shooting unfortunately requires it to be any good.

plus it takes the same skill set, if you shoot real steel and understand the effect of power factor with compensators then you can train in the uk with an identical gas pistol and the recoil is negligible.

plus all the belt kit is shared.

couple of guys who shoot pistols abroad do airsoft for this reason

 
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osteoshot said:
Who practices Airsoft drills?

I do.

action air pistol shooting unfortunately requires it to be any good.

plus it takes the same skill set, if you shoot real steel and understand the effect of power factor with compensators then you can train in the uk with an identical gas pistol and the recoil is negligible.

plus all the belt kit is shared.

couple of guys who shoot pistols abroad do airsoft for this reason
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Practical pistol shooting is different as practicing for competition is understandable same as speedsofter teams who train together.

General airsofters though while it is their choice to me it all seems a bit odd.

 
Airsoft for training makes more sense in the broader scheme of things when the focus is not solely on slinging BBs around.

It has its place like simunition and lasers/miles, it can't be all things to all men.

The trick is finding what it can do and pushing that forward.

 
Friend of mine was involved in a close protection course (Hereford) and they used airsoft guns as training aids.

 
CrackCommandoUnit1972 said:
....well the zombies ain't going to be a thing.
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Visit the Trafford Centre shopping mall in Manchester on a bank holiday. You'll rethink the zombie thing.

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CrackCommandoUnit1972 said:
What are we all training for? The Russians aren't coming and the zombies, well the zombies ain't going to be a thing.
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For something to do in their free time. 

Wanting to get better at something that has a competitive nature to it isn't strange. Darts players, sprinters, race car drivers, golfers, swimmers etc etc etc.  

 
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