Call Your Hits, or a Cautionary Tale of Marksmanship

[Adolf Hamster]

Wow. Do these people understand basic physics and inertia? If lighter was better then surely we'd all be running around firing .12g bbs

Given most sites dont understand the basics of kinetic energy as it applies to different bb weights i'd assume not.

Its kinda scary how easy it would be for folk who know a bit of how these things work to run as hot as they like.

Or even with joule creep to run hot and not even realise.

 

[Shamal]

Its kinda scary how easy it would be for folk who know a bit of how these things work to run as hot as they 

Isn't that the point of chrono testing?

When I started I was told that it was poss to 'spoof' the chrono by saying you had a different weight bb than you really had.

Is that what you are saying?

Only asking cause i dont know.

???

Regards 

Happy xmas

 

[Skara]

Isn't that the point of chrono testing?

Yes if the chrono test is made in Joules using game weight.

If your site chronoes only on 0.2s (like we do here in Italy, we check Joules but on 0.2s and then wonder why all the HPA guys reach out to 75 metres ) then it can be cheated really easily.

 

[Adolf Hamster]

Isn't that the point of chrono testing?

When I started I was told that it was poss to 'spoof' the chrono by saying you had a different weight bb than you really had.

Is that what you are saying?

Only asking cause i dont know.

???

Regards 

Happy xmas

there are a number of ways, but its kind of scary how many times i've chrono'd on the heavies (being 100% honest about the weight i'm running) only to be told "that's a little low" because the fps reading isn't 328 (even though the joule reading is saying 1j) and i've had to point out to them that the reading is correct.

and that's without even trying to engage things like joule creep, lying about ammo weights or sneaky reg/npas/spring twiddling shenanigans.

 

[Steveocee]

there are a number of ways, but its kind of scary how many times i've chrono'd on the heavies (being 100% honest about the weight i'm running) only to be told "that's a little low" because the fps reading isn't 328 (even though the joule reading is saying 1j) and i've had to point out to them that the reading is correct.

and that's without even trying to engage things like joule creep, lying about ammo weights or sneaky reg/npas/spring twiddling shenanigans.

I have a buddy who went to chrono his Novi SSG24 at a site. He intentionally put 0.25's in to lie about the weight he was using (site chrono's with 0.2s) and the dumbass wasn't quick witted enough at chrono to say 0.2's and he said 0.25. They converted it and he was hot so got asked to take it away. He then stuck 0.2's in and re-chrono'd and slid by due to the marignally less joule creep with the lighter ammo and came scurrying back with his coloured zip tie.

Promptly loaded said SSG up with 0.46's ?

We talked him out of using it but I can't help but think site's don't help this situation. I personally ALWAYS chrono on my shooting weight and I know that all of my RIF's are under enough so that nobody dries their teeth when I go through.

Christ I crono'd before lockdown and commented that my 0.25's should be hitting about 290 so just under 1J and the marshall replied "we don't use joules here mate".

I do feel that marshalls should have some kind of recognised benchmark that covers basics, attitude and some theory rather than just if you want a free game next week.

 

[Tommikka]

I do feel that marshalls should have some kind of recognised benchmark that covers basics, attitude and some theory rather than just if you want a free game next week.

First prize goes to @Steveocee

 

[Adolf Hamster]

I do feel that marshalls should have some kind of recognised benchmark that covers basics, attitude and some theory rather than just if you want a free game next week.

aye it would be worthwhile.

but it's still a scary proposition that there's nothing but my own honesty stopping me rocking up with say the dragonuv, legitimately passing chrono on 0.2's then spending the rest of the day blasting .48's far above the site limit.

this is why i absolutely despise the "1fps over you're out" kind of sites, because as @Rogerborg is fond of saying "it's nothing but safety theatre" if they're not accounting for creep or chrono'ing people in-game.