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Brushless Gossip
Issue 1 - September 2024
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Strolling across Aliexpress I've noticed a few new brushless motors popped up recently, and I am happy to say there seems to be a new generation of brushless arms race.
The brands seem to have picked up the chatters and are now starting to advertise their improved CPUs and algorithms and response times measuring in milliseconds.
The prices seem to be drifting down a little as well which is good.
For discussion I will note them down here along with some marketing points they are making. This is purely a review of their marketing and I have not bought any of these.
In no particular order:
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Chaoli CLBL 480
Comment:
Probably the oldest of this bunch because I have seen this model before but not the others.
Potentially the fastest response of the bunch by 4 ms.
Still expensive, if they remove the adjustable RPM and make it cheaper this can be a winner.
Good for chasing trigger response.
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T238 QRBLS "Quick Response"
Comment:
Some impressive videos on Youtube, does seem to have faster response.
Good budget option.
Unknown CPU and response ms, could possibly be room for improvement.
Could be good enough for all intent and purposes.
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(T238 / Solink?) KPG Gamma Brushless
Comment:
Impressive marketing. 7 ms is not the fastest tho.
RPM seems a bit too much, could perhaps make it slower and improve torque or efficiency.
Good budget option if you want the higher RPM.
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(T238 / Solink) "Demon kinG"
Comment:
Expensive but they market it as flagship so I would expect the highest quality components.
Same factory with the Gamma and the T238?
They seem to suggest the 60k model is absolute bonkers for forbidden builds but this is probably irrelevant to most people.
Good for unlimited budget extreme builds.
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Final thoughts:
I should throw in the Paragon brushless as honourable mention ("3 ms start") because it was probably the first motor that I am aware to market their boot up time, and I think we can call these millisecond-conscious brushless motors a new generation. And this gen is entering an exciting arms race.
The market has definitely moved on from the days of Warheads, and in my opinion unless these last-gens come down in prices, there is little reason to pick them over the newer cheaper models.
With Specna starting to bring in brushless into their stock builds (albeit a previous-gen brushless) we are perhaps seeing the start of brushless becoming mainstream in the near future.
Issue 1 - September 2024
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Strolling across Aliexpress I've noticed a few new brushless motors popped up recently, and I am happy to say there seems to be a new generation of brushless arms race.
The brands seem to have picked up the chatters and are now starting to advertise their improved CPUs and algorithms and response times measuring in milliseconds.
The prices seem to be drifting down a little as well which is good.
For discussion I will note them down here along with some marketing points they are making. This is purely a review of their marketing and I have not bought any of these.
In no particular order:
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Chaoli CLBL 480
- ~£90 + VAT
- Two models, 26.5k-39k and 39k-48k adjustable RPM with potentiometer on the case
- "3 ms response"
- "32-bit CPU"
- "Emergency stop after power failure, no buffer, stable output"
- Seems to have a capacitor on the control board
Comment:
Probably the oldest of this bunch because I have seen this model before but not the others.
Potentially the fastest response of the bunch by 4 ms.
Still expensive, if they remove the adjustable RPM and make it cheaper this can be a winner.
Good for chasing trigger response.
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T238 QRBLS "Quick Response"
- ~£68 + VAT
- Choice of 25k/28k/37k models, no on-board adjustable RPM
- "Emergency stop after power failure, no buffer, stable output"
Comment:
Some impressive videos on Youtube, does seem to have faster response.
Good budget option.
Unknown CPU and response ms, could possibly be room for improvement.
Could be good enough for all intent and purposes.
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(T238 / Solink?) KPG Gamma Brushless
- ~£58 + shipping £2.33 + VAT
- Choice of 36k/43k models
- "7 ms start time"
- "ARM Cortex M4 @ 100 Mhz"
- "self-developed patented algorithm"
Comment:
Impressive marketing. 7 ms is not the fastest tho.
RPM seems a bit too much, could perhaps make it slower and improve torque or efficiency.
Good budget option if you want the higher RPM.
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(T238 / Solink) "Demon kinG"
- ~£110 + shipping £24 + VAT (barely below threshold for Customs Duty!)
- Choice of 34k/39k/48k/60k models
- "7 ms start time"
- "ARM Cortex M4 @ 100 Mhz"
- "self-developed patented algorithm"
Comment:
Expensive but they market it as flagship so I would expect the highest quality components.
Same factory with the Gamma and the T238?
They seem to suggest the 60k model is absolute bonkers for forbidden builds but this is probably irrelevant to most people.
Good for unlimited budget extreme builds.
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Final thoughts:
I should throw in the Paragon brushless as honourable mention ("3 ms start") because it was probably the first motor that I am aware to market their boot up time, and I think we can call these millisecond-conscious brushless motors a new generation. And this gen is entering an exciting arms race.
The market has definitely moved on from the days of Warheads, and in my opinion unless these last-gens come down in prices, there is little reason to pick them over the newer cheaper models.
With Specna starting to bring in brushless into their stock builds (albeit a previous-gen brushless) we are perhaps seeing the start of brushless becoming mainstream in the near future.
