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Best way to start MilSiming

Reb3l

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Hi guys so after Christmas I want to start airsofting. And eventually after a while of skirmishing I want to go to MilSIm events and I wondered a few things like what to take, do certain events and certain teams require certain Gear. do you need more battery's etc.. Are there limits on ammo and grenades and age limits.

opinions appreciated.

 
Every Milsim provider is different, some places like Airborne Airsoft just require you to meet the dress code... others like Stirling / Tier1 / Combat Airsoft Group etc may require you to live out of a rucksack in the countryside for up to 72 hours.

Pick a game you want to go to, read the rules, make sure you fit all the criteria (age and health are the 2 main ones) and then make sure you can meet the dress code/kit requirements, that's all there is to it. If you can't meet the requirements, don't go, it won't be any fun!

 
I have started okto's milsim events. Go camping for a few days, and play two 8 hours stints of airsoft day after day. There are uniform requirements for different teams (dont need to be expensive at all, all gear is basically preference) and a limit to how many rounds you can have in midcap mags on your person. Pretty sure any age can go so long as they have an adult with them. Mate or parent.

Gotta say, they are great. Very friendly people on the whole. Alot of milsims are like skirmishing but with a focus on more realism and tactics, and avoiding running around with bright green guns and highcaps like its call of duty lol things like tier one are very much for the wiah i was a soldeir type/actual ex soldeirs. They are very exclusive and i imagine, full of bellends.

 
Elitism works both ways. Usually people who have never been to a proper mil sim that dismiss it as only for Gear-do,walts.

"I got into airsoft for the realism but I'm going to spend my time looking down my nose at people pursuing a greater level of realism than me"

 
Actually a lot of people get into airsoft for fun not realism because its in no way realistic.

As I have said before milsim is a great idea and the way forward for airsoft. Unfortunately though some players do need to recognise its a game to be played for fun and not real life.

Milsim will attract the biggest walts and nobs in airsoft but thats not its fault thats just human nature.

Maybe the more sensible event organisers need to start banning the try hards and the players need to educate the over zealous few among them.

Until that changes a bit though a lot of airsofters are still going to look at milsims a bit funny because its the minority who give it a bad name who stand out the most.

 
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Dont run before you can walk. Go to a few skirmishes, get your UKARA if youre over 18 and then decide where you want to go from there. Bear in mind that milsims generally speaking, dont allow two tone airsoft guns.

 
Actually a lot of people get into airsoft for fun not realism because its in no way realistic.

As I have said before milsim is a great idea and the way forward for airsoft. Unfortunately though some players do need to recognise its a game to be played for fun and not real life.
I like the events where it's kit based so you aren't playing spot the armband as it's a horribly flawed way of denoting which team someone is on. There's also quite a lot of skirmish sites where it feels like the objectives for the day have been made up on the spot.

I'm not sure if I can be arsed to ever play through the weekend, although i'd be up for stuff where it's a full session saturday, then camping with another session on sunday.

 
exclusive and full of bellends... hmm.

anyone can pay the fee and turn up, seems like okto has at least one bellend themselves!
Like trig said it was a generalisation. And as sgttalbert said teir one have not helped themselves by making theres invite only. In their own words on the fb page they said most arent good enough for them and that they only want the best of the best....in airsoft....the game is mainly for fun, not training in case the chinese invade.

Dont insult people. Its a forum, not a schoolyard.

Back to topic! Milsims are great if you want to have more realism and objectives, and even the lesser ones are quite a charecter/fitness test. Just another flavour for airsoft. I enjoyed the simulation stuff, but i will definately keep skirmishing as well.

 
exclusive and full of bellends... hmm.

anyone can pay the fee and turn up, seems like okto has at least one bellend themselves!
Guess your one of tiers "special" 20% then?
Looking at your sig as well not overly shocked by your response.

 
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Also Tier1 haven't helped themselves and the 'image' of Milsim by saying 80% of the players who turned up weren't good enough. Tier 1 is now invite only
To be fair, I agree with them, they weren't running airsoft events, they were running Milsim events using airsoft as the tool to make the guns 'work'. What tier1 wanted to achieve was a 36-48 hour snapshot of what real military operations are like; very little sleep, short notice tasking, coming off a patrol straight onto stag or straight into another patrol - having that patrol end as uneventfully as the last without a single shot fired because the ROE you're working under doesn't allow you to shoot the guy you know is reporting your position to his mates.

80% of the people they had turn up wanted an airsoft game and couldn't deal with it, they bitched about lack of sleep, chinned off jobs entirely because they were having a BBQ, OPfor players who turned up in plate carriers carrying tricked out M4's who just wanted to make contact with the blue force players ALL THE TIME.

All that resulted in was that the people who'd turned up for the full-on-milsim experience that they'd been sold didn't get it, they got an airsoft skirmish with some expensive pyro and cool kit.

Milsim will attract the biggest walts and nobs in airsoft but thats not its fault thats just human nature.

Maybe the more sensible event organisers need to start banning the try hards and the players need to educate the over zealous few among them.

Until that changes a bit though a lot of airsofters are still going to look at milsims a bit funny because its the minority who give it a bad name who stand out the most.
Been to a lot of serious milsims then? Walts don't survive, most of the main organisers are ex forces themselves, a lot of the attendees are serving or ex forces, someone turns up claiming to be something they're not and they get found out ASAP and kindly asked to sort their lives out. Try hards (as in people who actually try hard) are exactly what milsim games need, people willing to get up at 0130 after 30 minutes sleep because there's a raid happening and they need a unit to secure a nearby building so the breaching/raiding team can have a clear exit route.... that's what milsim is, trying hard, because that's what MIL is, working hard.

As for nobs, I encounter far more aggro, cheating and general cockishness at your average sunday skirmish than I ever have at a milsim weekeder. Granted, there are bell ends that attend the more serious milsims, but they're extremely easy to avoid just through the nature of the game; blue and red forces do not speak to each other and if you want to avoid a person on the same side as you, just request at the start of the event that you be put in a different unit to him and chances are you won't have to share so much as a single word for the entire weekend.

99% of the time your 'milsim wanker' (we all know them) who turns up to a sunday skirmish is the kind of person that tier1 went invite-only to avoid, the fat man who sits at the back shouting 'push up', but who has attended a themed skirmish at ambush adventures and thinks he's a cut above everyone else there because of it. Don't let that chode colour your perception of what milsim is, because he isn't it.

 
Guess your one of tiers "special" 20% then?

Looking at your sig as well not overly shocked by your response.
Actually no, that rule happened while I was deployed on actual military operations in somalia and I didn't get the email.

 
Ill give it to you have a good point in the main comment above. But you assume to quickly because some of us are insulted by tier ones elitisum that we are not mil enough for it? Thats the attitude that besmudges milsim. Ratherthan a come and have a go and push yourself attitudeits more of a you cant do it because you arnt hard enough attitude thus giving a bellend impression to the masses.

 
Ill give it to you have a good point in the main comment above. But you assume to quickly because some of us are insulted by tier ones elitisum that we are not mil enough for it? Thats the attitude that besmudges milsim. Ratherthan a come and have a go and push yourself attitudeits more of a you cant do it because you arnt hard enough attitude thus giving a bellend impression to the masses.
That's not what I said or what I implied, you may be hard as coffin nails... I have no idea. What I said was that the vast majority of people turning up to tier1 games weren't able to keep up with their intended market.

 
I didnt mean you directly i ment companys who run strict milsim. Im saying its a lack of come and try attitude that alienates the masses. Ultimately though if the have enough custom i doubt they care.

Also sorry to the op as qe have driffted wildley off topic.

 
I'm sure they have some kind of mechanism in place to get new custom... I have no idea what it is though, recommendations from current players perhaps?

 
In answer to the OPs question I would do something like an Airborne Airsoft milsim day, see if you like it then consider some of events that last a whole weekend.

 
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