Bad Publicity?

[Tackle]

Me personally I don’t see a problem with a 1joule blanket limit . 

I'd rather have a 1j that's properly enforced than no Airsoft at all?

Me personally I don’t see a problem with a 1joule blanket limit . 

I'd rather have a 1j that's properly enforced than no Airsoft at all?

Me personally I don’t see a problem with a 1joule blanket limit . 

I'd rather have a 1j limit that's properly enforced than no Airsoft at all?

Me personally I don’t see a problem with a 1joule blanket limit . 

I'd rather have a 1j limit that's properly enforced than no Airsoft at all?

Me personally I don’t see a problem with a 1joule blanket limit . 

Exactly, I'd rather have a 1j limit that's properly enforced than no Airsoft at all?

I'd rather have a 1j that's properly enforced than no Airsoft at all?

I'd rather have a 1j that's properly enforced than no Airsoft at all?

I'd rather have a 1j limit that's properly enforced than no Airsoft at all?

I'd rather have a 1j limit that's properly enforced than no Airsoft at all?

Exactly, I'd rather have a 1j limit that's properly enforced than no Airsoft at all?

Wtf just happened, damn you fat impatient thumb ?

 

[Spartan09]

I'd rather have a 1j that's properly enforced than no Airsoft at all?

I'd rather have a 1j that's properly enforced than no Airsoft at all?

I'd rather have a 1j limit that's properly enforced than no Airsoft at all?

I'd rather have a 1j limit that's properly enforced than no Airsoft at all?

Exactly, I'd rather have a 1j limit that's properly enforced than no Airsoft at all?

Wtf just happened, damn you fat impatient thumb ?

some people spam semi-auto...     looks like @Tackle spams the "submit reply" button...

=P

 

[MiK]

some people spam semi-auto...     looks like @Tackle spams the "submit reply" button...

=P

but are we gonna call the “hits” ?

 

[Tackle]

some people spam semi-auto...     looks like @Tackle spams the "submit reply" button...

=P

To be fair it's the same thumb that went through a table saw in 2019, bout 90% cut through, & then reattached ?...... so it's a bit numb

Good job it wasnt my trigger finger, you mofo's would be in a world of pain ??

 

[Stratton Oakmont]

This is funny. 

Who is Siggi Langnasen and who pissed in his cornflakes? 

As I recall it was the chap that used to Post videos moaning about KM as panzerlang

 

[Impulse]

I'm the chairman

All hail glorious chairman typefish

 

[Zarrin]

Me personally I don’t see a problem with a 1joule blanket limit . 

I assume you don't snipe or do much DMR stuff - it would diminish the effectiveness and enjoyability of those roles considerably.

 

[Adolf Hamster]

You’ve hit the nail on the head there, I don’t think a 490FPS sniper with 0.5 bbs at 75 yards is particularly painful. Certainly no more painful than a QCB nozzbag with a £40 springer pistol, no MED and .2s that gets the jump on you and pops you in the back of the neck at a couple of meters. 
 

There is also an argument here for people who don’t like getting shot shouldn’t do airsoft. I haven’t read the Facebook group (don’t use social media) but it does seem to be the crux of the problem that some people just don’t like getting shot and will bitch and whinge regardless of the FPS limit. The phrase playing silly games winning silly prizes springs to mind...

i found it interesting way back when i was doing the massive spreadsheet to figure out the true answer to wether heavier bb's really are better that an 0.5g bb fired at 2.5j at about 20m has about 1.3j of energy, which corresponds to a point blank rifle.

the being prepared to be shot at argument is a tricky one. yes when i go on the field i choose to accept that getting pinged is part of the process, yes i choose not to wear lower face protection. however i don't choose to be the punching bag for some knob who wants to intentionally cause pain because he thinks that's some cool or clever thing to do (how that's achieved be it unnecessary shots to sensitive areas, full auto spraying up close, cheating chrono etc will of course vary).

Yeah but its good to talk and if you have an opinion about something you are entitled to voice it. Everyone is. Freedom of speech hasn't been forced underground...yet! Lol

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Regards 

indeed, the whole point of this forum environment is to have a space where we can state our opinions. whether people want to agree, disagree or ignore said opinion is of course their own prerogative.

I assume you don't snipe or do much DMR stuff - it would diminish the effectiveness and enjoyability of those roles considerably.

it is feasible to do some level of sniping shenanigans on a 1j limit, although you are very much reliant at that point on ammo weight and stealth and it is much easier to get caught out.

although as much as i like the challenge that a dmr role entails i must admit to feeling it would change the game dynamic a fair bit if you could rely on a bigger chunk of extra range.

that said you also don't have to worry about med's so someone creeps up you can just shoot them straight up rather than debate wether they're close enough that you need to use a pistol.

 

[Impulse]

See, I prefer keeping to 1.1J for DMRs because gaining that 30m MED space is worth a lot more than the 5 or so metres I'll gain from going to 1.6J.

I still wouldn't advocate for the DMR limit being removed, because having the choice is nice, and a lot of people do prefer it.

 

[Tackle]

I assume you don't snipe or do much DMR stuff - it would diminish the effectiveness and enjoyability of those roles considerably.

While I can't comment on druids playing style etc, personally I only generally use single shot, especially gratifying with my M14 & fal, & hopefully my new G3, & all my guns are sub 1j, all running between 300-335 FPS (but well sit up hops) & do well in a sneaky dmr stylee, if a knackered old fartknocker like me can get by with less than 1j, then surely it won't hold back fitter livelier players.

The point  I, & I suspect druid was making, was that in these anti gun times, if the sport was threatened in any way, a 1j ruling would be one possible way to placate those who lobby against us ?

 

[typefish]

I assume you don't snipe or do much DMR stuff - it would diminish the effectiveness and enjoyability of those roles considerably.

Following on from this, there is very little difference between 1J and 1.13J - an estimate of a couple of metres or so, give or take some fairy dust being liberally sprinkled around the hop unit.

However not too long ago we as a community spent a considerable amount of time and effort (and the case of the retailers, their money) in proving to the Government (and others) that what we hold to be common practice is indeed safe.

And it makes no sense to throw that away ?‍

 

[Solar]

While I can't comment on druids playing style etc, personally I only generally use single shot, especially gratifying with my M14 & fal, & hopefully my new G3, & all my guns are sub 1j, all running between 300-335 FPS (but well sit up hops) & do well in a sneaky dmr stylee, if a knackered old fartknocker like me can get by with less than 1j, then surely it won't hold back fitter livelier players.

The point  I, & I suspect druid was making, was that in these anti gun times, if the sport was threatened in any way, a 1j ruling would be one possible way to placate those who lobby against us ?

You are trying to apply logic to the anti-gun brigade, it wont work. Our gun laws in this country already dont make a lot of sense as is. Its best just to try and fly under the radar as much as possible.

 

[Shamal]

Sorry, I didn't see your message

I'm the chairman

 

[GenuineGerman]

What we need in this country is something similar to the second amendment 

 

[Shamal]

Sorry, I didn't see your message

I'm the chairman

Coo. Bow, Scrape... lol

We probably met at the last agm at the Grange?

 

[DRay]

What we need in this country is something similar to the second amendment 

Wholeheartedly disagree with you there mate. Having a RIF is great fun, it looks cool and you can shoot your mates with it. You can’t do that with a real firearm. 
 

There is a reason why things like Sandy Hook don’t happen in this country, and it’s because any old knobhead can’t run round with a gun they bought at an indoor market with no checks or license or registration process. 

 

[GenuineGerman]

Wholeheartedly disagree with you there mate. Having a RIF is great fun, it looks cool and you can shoot your mates with it. You can’t do that with a real firearm. 
 

There is a reason why things like Sandy Hook don’t happen in this country, and it’s because any old knobhead can’t run round with a gun they bought at an indoor market with no checks or license or registration process. 

I think the narrative that you can just buy a gun in the US is completely false. They do a comprehensive background check on anyone that buys a gun. Convicted criminals can’t buy guns and with the right checks and balances it shouldn’t be a problem. Criminals will always break laws and obviously I wouldn’t advocate skirmishes with live weapons. 

 

[Tackle]

I think the narrative that you can just buy a gun in the US is completely false. They do a comprehensive background check on anyone that buys a gun. Convicted criminals can’t buy guns and with the right checks and balances it shouldn’t be a problem. Criminals will always break laws and obviously I wouldn’t advocate skirmishes with live weapons. 

My family live in Missouri, my baby sister legally bought a .357 magnum, to replace her old gun which was stolen in a burglary, she was 20 & not legally allowed to buy a six pack of beer, that's some twisted logic right there.

As for the "checks" they do, it's harder to get a contract mobile phone in the UK than it is to legally buy a firearm in the USA.

Any lunatic that doesn't have a criminal record can get one.

Madness ?

 

[GenuineGerman]

Whilst I believe that we should have the right to legally bear arms in the UK I understand why we don’t and why people wouldn’t want that law in place. My point in a roundabout way is simply that more if we start imposing more regulations on rifs it will get to a point where they will be banned like in Australia. The government will simply pass one law ever now and again and before long we can’t go out anymore. 
 

The best way is to self regulate which is done fairly well at the moment but if the authorities hear discontent they will jump on it for political point scoring and we will all be classed as gun lunatics. 
 

with regards to buying weapons in the US I agree being able to buy a 357 at 20 but not being able to drink till 21 sounds stupid but I would argue alcohol and drugs are a larger public health issue that guns. 
 

there will be exceptions and lunatics but then anyone in this country can buy a knife and just go out and start stabbing. How can you stop the lunatics? 

 

[Shamal]

What we need in this country is something similar to the second amendment 

I think we still have the right to practice archery on a sunday ?